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V6 Kits
- Thread starter V6 JOSE
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2.8 v6 conversion kit
Jose
I would be interested in acquiring one of your 2.8 liter conversions kits. Please email me at rnj@olypen.com
Jose
I would be interested in acquiring one of your 2.8 liter conversions kits. Please email me at rnj@olypen.com
S2kMinx
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V6 vs F20C
Hey guys, new member here. Just checkin out what you guys have to say about F20C (S2000) conversions. I'm putting one in my '66 Minx backed by the 6sp from the same and a 3.73 D44 with trac-lok.
Though I have no argument against the ford V6 swap (it's a proven winner), I do want to point out one thing regarding the quoted post: When you say a V6 Alpine beat an S2000 I believe that may be very true. However, an S2000 weighs ~1/3 more than the Alpine (Alpine ~2130, S2000 ~2800 - I'm sure you guys will correct me if the Alpine weight is not 100% correct, it's what I came up with on a quick google).
The real question if you want to compare apples to apples is how would a V6 Alpine do against a F20C Alpine in a drag race and AX? Sure there are many other factors such as mods, tuning, and the rest of the cars' set-up. Just food for thought. I realize the V6 is probably more bang for the buck (considering the cost of the F20C) and far less work, but just because someone says they beat an S2000 with one is not the end of the story for the F20C
What do these Ford V6's weight and put out for power? Another Google found this: "Ford Cologne 2.0-2.8 V6 380lbs."
Hi Yenko,
I think the guy that put the S2000 in his Alpine chose the wrong engine, because Jim beat one of those with his V6 Alpine; and that was before he had the proper rear gears in it. The guy just chose the wrong Alpine.
Thanks for sending your e-mail address. Will send the instructions.
Jose
Hey guys, new member here. Just checkin out what you guys have to say about F20C (S2000) conversions. I'm putting one in my '66 Minx backed by the 6sp from the same and a 3.73 D44 with trac-lok.
Though I have no argument against the ford V6 swap (it's a proven winner), I do want to point out one thing regarding the quoted post: When you say a V6 Alpine beat an S2000 I believe that may be very true. However, an S2000 weighs ~1/3 more than the Alpine (Alpine ~2130, S2000 ~2800 - I'm sure you guys will correct me if the Alpine weight is not 100% correct, it's what I came up with on a quick google).
The real question if you want to compare apples to apples is how would a V6 Alpine do against a F20C Alpine in a drag race and AX? Sure there are many other factors such as mods, tuning, and the rest of the cars' set-up. Just food for thought. I realize the V6 is probably more bang for the buck (considering the cost of the F20C) and far less work, but just because someone says they beat an S2000 with one is not the end of the story for the F20C
What do these Ford V6's weight and put out for power? Another Google found this: "Ford Cologne 2.0-2.8 V6 380lbs."
husky drvr
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Hey guys, new member here. Just checkin out what you guys have to say about F20C (S2000) conversions. I'm putting one in my '66 Minx backed by the 6sp from the same and a 3.73 D44 with trac-lok.
Though I have no argument against the ford V6 swap (it's a proven winner), I do want to point out one thing regarding the quoted post: When you say a V6 Alpine beat an S2000 I believe that may be very true. However, an S2000 weighs ~1/3 more than the Alpine (Alpine ~2130, S2000 ~2800 - I'm sure you guys will correct me if the Alpine weight is not 100% correct, it's what I came up with on a quick google).
The real question if you want to compare apples to apples is how would a V6 Alpine do against a F20C Alpine in a drag race and AX? Sure there are many other factors such as mods, tuning, and the rest of the cars' set-up. Just food for thought. I realize the V6 is probably more bang for the buck (considering the cost of the F20C) and far less work, but just because someone says they beat an S2000 with one is not the end of the story for the F20C
What do these Ford V6's weight and put out for power? Another Google found this: "Ford Cologne 2.0-2.8 V6 380lbs."
Welcome to the forum, F - F.
Most V6 Alpines weigh in at 2,400 lbs. The S2000 should make a nice conversion subject. The Alpine does weigh considerably less than the S2000, so would be at an advantage. The original thought was that the V6 Alpine will outperform cars that cost a lot more. For the money invested, it is hard to beat. I would love to see how well your car runs. Would be fun to race it against Jim´s Vader. I don´t know if Jim would be willing to flog his Alpine, but would be fun if he would. Will you have your car done by the time the Invasion rolls around next year? I would love to see it.
The 2.8 V6 isn´t the only good engine for converting into the Alpine, but is the easiest and cheapest one to install.
Jose
The 2.8 V6 isn´t the only good engine for converting into the Alpine, but is the easiest and cheapest one to install.
Jose
S2kMinx
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Thank you.
Thanks. Still workin away. I'll get there one day
You're dead right the v6 alpine is hard to beat for the money from what I've seen/read. Awesome contribution to the community you made with your kits. I may have gone that route if I found you before starting mine, but there's no turning back now!
I would love to see how well my car runs too
I can tell you this: the F20C weighs 320lbs and puts out 240hp from the factory. Commonly modded to well over 300hp quite reliably. The 9000rpm redline spells pure fun in a light sportscar. Until my car is on the road I can only offer this to give an idea of the engine's potential (skip at least the first minute) That Bimer weighs 3200-3500lbs. Now put that in a 2100-2400lb car
As for the Invasion, NC is quite a trek for me from Oregon. I'll definitely be taking it to west-coast events ASAP.
MikeH
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A guy in my MG club has the whole S2000 set up in an MGB/GT. Scary fast. How are you handling the instrument panel part? He had to transfer it all to the B/GT.
According to Edmonds: "Debuting in 2000, the Honda S2000 started life with a 2.0-liter inline-4 that redlined at 9,000 rpm. With 240 hp, it put out more horsepower per liter than any other naturally aspirated engine on the planet."
According to Edmonds: "Debuting in 2000, the Honda S2000 started life with a 2.0-liter inline-4 that redlined at 9,000 rpm. With 240 hp, it put out more horsepower per liter than any other naturally aspirated engine on the planet."
S2kMinx
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One of the biggest headaches of the swap are all the security "features" built into the ECU requiring the use of the factory ignition tumbler and start button as well as (apparently) the need to run the S2000 cluster.
I am bypassing that entire headache by running an AEM EMS.
As for the instruments I am going with the Acura RSX-S gauge internals installed into my factory round gauges. The "S" gets me the 9000rpm tach.
Maybe I should start my own thread on it so I don't take this one too far off topic...? I have a build thread linked in my sig.
Agentwright
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joe still around?
so i now this is an old post but i was wondering if you can still get these kits? i read about a guy here in provo utah that "spent long hours on the phone with joe while he talked him through the v6 conversion. i am also in utah and am hoping for the same generousity. any way. i heard joe retired but if ther is any way to do this now i would love to hear it. thanks
so i now this is an old post but i was wondering if you can still get these kits? i read about a guy here in provo utah that "spent long hours on the phone with joe while he talked him through the v6 conversion. i am also in utah and am hoping for the same generousity. any way. i heard joe retired but if ther is any way to do this now i would love to hear it. thanks
Hi Jon,
I still have 6 kits left, although two more guys have said they are going to send in their money. I can have a kit to you within two weeks.
The guy you refer to, is Rob Wiseman, and he not only has a running V6 Alpine, but he´s bought a second kit and is building a second Alpine. The second one has a 2.9 V6 stroker crank and the whole shootin match, so should be a rocket.
Just send me an e-mail, and I will send you ordering instructions.
Jose
I still have 6 kits left, although two more guys have said they are going to send in their money. I can have a kit to you within two weeks.
The guy you refer to, is Rob Wiseman, and he not only has a running V6 Alpine, but he´s bought a second kit and is building a second Alpine. The second one has a 2.9 V6 stroker crank and the whole shootin match, so should be a rocket.
Just send me an e-mail, and I will send you ordering instructions.
Jose