Barry
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Which of those Mustang, Mazda and Jeep calipers will work on a Series Alpine with factory spindles and the factory steel wheels?
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Series V 3.89 differential
- Thread starter DougCoad
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Which of those Mustang, Mazda and Jeep calipers will work on a Series Alpine with factory spindles and the factory steel wheels?
Barry
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Which Brembo calipers fit a Series Alpine with factory spindles and factory steel wheels?
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Barry
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No "may" about it; Wilwood clearly notes that their front brake kit for the Tiger (and Alpine) requires a minimum 15" wheel diameter.
OTBE, braking power is directly proportional to the diameter of the disk brake rotor.
OTBE, braking power is directly proportional to the total area of the caliper piston(s).
OTBE, the area of the brake pads does not affect braking power (coefficient of friction), but may affect pad life.
OTBE, softer (again, coefficient of friction) brake pads should provide more braking power, but may wear faster.
OTBE, vented brake disks do not provide more braking power than non-vented brake disks, but may provide better resistance to "brake fade" during repeated hard stops.
Traction absolutely matters; probably more than braking power in most cases. There is no need for increased braking power on a Series Alpine with with factory width street tires. Reducing brake pedal effort and / or eliminating the single point of failure brake system design are different issues.
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Shannon Boal
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My Alpine V has 15" Panasport wheels....I probably would do well to start by replacing front pads and rotors with best available stock type, and rear shoes which may be glazed from driving with parking brake applied.
belmateo
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Rear calipers
The GM "Metric" caliper is an easy install, using modified Speedway Motors Metric caliper brackets. The hard part is finding rotors that are compatible with the Alpine hubs and position the caliper correctly. Compatible may mean different things to different guys with different workshops. If this case, it means something that I can modify to be acceptable. Definitely not bolt on. Also need 7/8" MC if using the 2 1/2" Metric caliper.
IIRC, the Saturn calipers are pretty small, but more than 1" bore.
Bill
IIRC, the Saturn calipers are pretty small, but more than 1" bore.
Bill
spmdr
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For those that think rear brakes do very little,
Ask yourself, If that is true, Why are cars made with REAR Brakes?
The Tiger in my avatar has Stock Rear Drum Brakes!
HOWEVER it does NOT have stock rear brake shoes!
Brake Friction material is EVERYTHING!
Regardless of Brake type, the correct Friction material is Key.
As a disclaimer, I have not kept up with Brake Tech.
The rear brake shoes (material) have been the same for over 20 years!
AND with the higher temp working shoes, Rear brake Ventilation
WAS absolutely Necessary, to keep the brake Drums from Cracking!
I have been using Carbotech Kelated Metallic shoes.
If you are serious about your Brakes, get the right lining material first.
IF that does not work out, change your brakes.
However, consider the Cost of the Better Friction pads before settling on
a type of caliper.
Prices can very a BUNCH for the same Friction material for different cars.
DW
Ask yourself, If that is true, Why are cars made with REAR Brakes?
The Tiger in my avatar has Stock Rear Drum Brakes!
HOWEVER it does NOT have stock rear brake shoes!
Brake Friction material is EVERYTHING!
Regardless of Brake type, the correct Friction material is Key.
As a disclaimer, I have not kept up with Brake Tech.
The rear brake shoes (material) have been the same for over 20 years!
AND with the higher temp working shoes, Rear brake Ventilation
WAS absolutely Necessary, to keep the brake Drums from Cracking!
I have been using Carbotech Kelated Metallic shoes.
If you are serious about your Brakes, get the right lining material first.
IF that does not work out, change your brakes.
However, consider the Cost of the Better Friction pads before settling on
a type of caliper.
Prices can very a BUNCH for the same Friction material for different cars.
DW
Did what you said and all is good now. I only drive car to events.
SoCal'beaming
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I have a couple of 3:89 gear sets if anyone is interested?
.......... David
.......... David
It all depends on driving style. Twenty years ago, I read that dirt track racers, running hopped up Ford 2.3 200hp engines, mostly in Pintos and Mutt 2's, preferred the Pinto 6 3/4" rear over the 8" rear. Good enough ratio selection, Light, cheap and durable. However, it did not like to be T-boned. As being T- boned was never on any drivers race card, that was not viewed as a problem.
Bill
Bill
AGREED! The issue of no rear braking was easily remedied on my SV was to install proportioning valve.
husky drvr
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After new lines were run to the rear drums and brakes bled, the proportioning valve was adjusted with most pressure going to rear brakes. Fun to watch car skidding in parking lot. Then valve was slowly adjusted to allow more pressure to the fronts. Now F an R are about equal and the car is now actually fun to drive. Yanked the booster if anyone wants it......That's interesting.
Oops! Apparently only the rears are affected by the valve.
DanR
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The whole purpose of me trying to improve the braking for the Sunbeam was an application to "all" of them from stock steel 13" and wire 13".
I did right good for the wires. Just haven't been as successful for the steel. I will revisit them again time permitting.
Just trying to use the KISS principle.
I did right good for the wires. Just haven't been as successful for the steel. I will revisit them again time permitting.
Just trying to use the KISS principle.
Dan, what seems to be interfering with the wheel? I'm thinking I probably packed parts inside my wheel tighter than you did. Sort of adopted Jose's principle of "clearance is clearance". The good news is that I experienced no interference as miles went by.
Bill
Bill
Barry
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The significant dimensional difference between the 13" factory steel wheels and 13" factory spoke wheels on Series Alpines is that the rear spoke wheels are positioned 1-1/4" further outboard than the rear steel wheels. I suspect that moving the 13" factory rear steel wheels outward by using a 1" or 1-1/4" wheel adapter (sometimes incorrectly referred to as a "spacer") will solve your problem of caliper interference with the 13" factory rear steel wheels.
https://lugnutguys.com/collections/adapters-2/products/wheel-spacer-4x4-25-25mm-thick-12x1-5-studs
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Hodee
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Are these pads made for the Alpine specific, or are they ordered for fitting a different application like Capri etc... thanks
DanR
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Here is an update on the Rear Disc kit - Now available for the Stock Steel 13"
Search for this POST: https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/ind...ine-and-tiger-caliper-rotor.28527/post-236367
Search for this POST: https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/ind...ine-and-tiger-caliper-rotor.28527/post-236367