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What Year, Model is this?
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MikeH
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What casting numbers by distributor or on the heads?
Post a pic.
I believe the 6059 is just the Ford basic part number for a timing cover. It falls within the Engine Base Assembly group, 6000-6898.
The TM might be for Truck/Performance vehicle.
But the 72 does not follow Ford part number formats. 1972 would be D2. So it’s probably a casting number.
Is this a V8? If I substitute D2 for 72 I find
Ford FE D2TE-6059 AA Timing Chain Cover 352 360 390 406 427 428
Post a pic.
I believe the 6059 is just the Ford basic part number for a timing cover. It falls within the Engine Base Assembly group, 6000-6898.
The TM might be for Truck/Performance vehicle.
But the 72 does not follow Ford part number formats. 1972 would be D2. So it’s probably a casting number.
Decoding Ford casting part numbers
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Is this a V8? If I substitute D2 for 72 I find
Ford FE D2TE-6059 AA Timing Chain Cover 352 360 390 406 427 428
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Mag0152
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It is a V6 with staggered exhaust ports
DanR
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It is definitely a Cologne Engine. It is also a V6.
The rear exhaust port in the picture from the looks of it has two (2) exhaust ports mergered into one unlike the 1974 - 78 2.8 V6 Cologne that has the Siamese Exhaust ports side-by-side.
The "74 TM" markings on the 74-78 Cologne are distinct for the 1974 V6
The casting numbers ("6 71") in this PIC indicate to me it is a much earlier Cologne V6. The reason I was assking if the engine could be identified was I am not at all falilar with these type/style V6's. I am assuming it is of the European usage primarily.
The rear exhaust port in the picture from the looks of it has two (2) exhaust ports mergered into one unlike the 1974 - 78 2.8 V6 Cologne that has the Siamese Exhaust ports side-by-side.
The "74 TM" markings on the 74-78 Cologne are distinct for the 1974 V6
The casting numbers ("6 71") in this PIC indicate to me it is a much earlier Cologne V6. The reason I was assking if the engine could be identified was I am not at all falilar with these type/style V6's. I am assuming it is of the European usage primarily.
DanR
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Mag, I took another good look at the engine and believe the exhaust ports are "not" staggered. Take a good look and you will see what I mean, the exhaut manifolds has "only" two (2) ports in the manifold, ulike the Mutt II 1974-1978 V6 engine. It looks as if the rear exhaust ports in the head are routed into one (1) outlet for the manifold.
A friend of mine may login and get me straight on this soon.
260Alpine
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May be early 2.6 Capri motor. https://forum.sunbeamalpine.org/index.php?threads/identifying-2-8-vs-2-6.29641/
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MikeH
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| Disp. | Config. | Block Casting Code | Block Part Number | Years | Cam Drive | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1.2 | V4 | 1964-1967 | Gears | |||
| 1.3 | V4 | C | 1969-1972 | Gears | ||
| 1.5 | V4 | A | 1962-1972 | Gears | ||
| 1.7 | V4 | A | 1962-1972 | Gears | ||
| 1.8 | V6 | 1964-1967 | Gears | |||
| 2.0 | V6 | C | 74TM6015DA | 1970-80 | Gears | Used on many Capri in Continental Euorpe (i.e. not the UK) between 1970 and 1980. They were not exported to the USA. I'm a little suspicious of the part number that Svein Arne Hagen provided, since it indicates that it was first produced in 1974. We know that there were 2.0 liter Cologne V-6 Capris as early as 1970. There may be other earlier part numbers. |
| 2.3 | V6 | A | 74TM6015GA | 1970-80 | Gears | Used on many Capri in Continental Euorpe (i.e. not the UK) between 1970 and 1980. They were not exported to the USA. I'm a little suspicious of the part number that Svein Arne Hagen provided, since it indicates that it was first produced in 1974. We know that there were 2.3 liter Cologne V-6 Capris as early as 1970. There may be other earlier part numbers. |
| 2.4 | V6 | D | 1986-89 | Chain | We don't know much about this one. It was apparently used in some European Scorpios. It is apparently a close relative of the 2.9, with an 84mm bore. | |
| 2.6 | V6 | A | 70TM6015AA | 1972-1973 | Gear |
DanR
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POSTs 3 and 5
Barry
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A picture of the exhaust ports / manifold would be very useful.
FWIW, the Ford 2.3 and 2.6 V6 engines had a pair of siameesed exhaust ports on each side as shown in the video in post #8.
Have not seen a Ford 2.6 in an Alpine in a long time, but I remember the peoples choice award at SUNI XXIII (Charleston, SC in 2002) being won by Bob & Judy Sharkey with a 2.6 in an early Alpine.
FWIW, the Ford 2.3 and 2.6 V6 engines had a pair of siameesed exhaust ports on each side as shown in the video in post #8.
Have not seen a Ford 2.6 in an Alpine in a long time, but I remember the peoples choice award at SUNI XXIII (Charleston, SC in 2002) being won by Bob & Judy Sharkey with a 2.6 in an early Alpine.
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absunbeam
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This is a 2.8 with the dual exhaust which came out of a TVR 280i. Was hoping to get headers for it but opted for the US version with siamese exhaust ports and Dan’s headers .The Alpine pictured had a 2.6 Capri pictured in orange. The current owner is putting a 2.8 with Dan’s kit.
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MikeH
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Is there a picture in post 1? All I see is a rectangle with a question mark in a blue square.
You actually have it backwards. The head with the two exhaust ports has the Siamesed port.
The second-generation Cologne V6 was introduced in 1974. It displaced 2.8 L; 170.4 cu in (2,792 cc) with a bore and stroke of 93.03 mm × 68.5 mm (3.66 in × 2.70 in), and used a geared camshaft design. While based on the 2.6, the larger bore necessitated a different block.[2] The European version used a "siamesed" two-port exhaust manifold, similar to the one used on the V4, while the American version used three-port heads.
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