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lovethecar
I haven't visited the SAOCA site in about 9 months. The Website is very sleek now, easy to read, use and lots of options. The site suits the car...classic.
Happy New Year
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Enjoy.
I was afraid you were going to say the site suits the car...slow. Ian, anything on bringing the speed up?
Bill
AlpineIan
SAOCA Founder
Nope, I got nothing on the speed. Bottom line is that it needs a lot of horsepower to run. I've noticed that I get very good response on the site with my fathers new Dell PC. I don't know off the top of my head what the processor and RAM is on it, but much quicker than my 1.7G Celeron with 512M RAM. I'm also using a cable modem. Site is useable all day for me... just about a 7 second delay in page changes.
I did download the Joomla CMS and tested it out at one of my other domains. It was just about the same as this site, so definately not worth a change over. Time to get off dial-up guys!
I did download the Joomla CMS and tested it out at one of my other domains. It was just about the same as this site, so definately not worth a change over. Time to get off dial-up guys!
SIVAllan
Gold Level Sponsor
The site's speed issue appears server related.
Consider this computer setup, aging but a workhourse mobo, graphics card and graphics monitor:
OS – XP SP2
Chip Intel P4 1.8: cache: 8K & 512K
Memory 1.28 gig
Video – NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 [Display adapter]
--graphics card onboard memory: 256 Meg SDRAM
--bandwith 6.4 Gig/sec
SMART drives
Mainboard: Intel 100 Mhz
Internet: Earthlink DSL
Quick access is not a problem except for here.
I have not used dialup in a long, long time.
vBulletin software runs fine elsewhere, making me believe the provider has a bandwith bottleneck.
Waiting 10 or even 5 seconds per screen refresh using a capable DSL setup is a sure sign of a host problem.
That said, I do enjoy the new format, and certainly do appreciate the work that has gone into it, also the work to keep it going. It 'aint' easy.
But the slowness issue is not an end user problem.
Allan
Consider this computer setup, aging but a workhourse mobo, graphics card and graphics monitor:
OS – XP SP2
Chip Intel P4 1.8: cache: 8K & 512K
Memory 1.28 gig
Video – NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 [Display adapter]
--graphics card onboard memory: 256 Meg SDRAM
--bandwith 6.4 Gig/sec
SMART drives
Mainboard: Intel 100 Mhz
Internet: Earthlink DSL
Quick access is not a problem except for here.
I have not used dialup in a long, long time.
vBulletin software runs fine elsewhere, making me believe the provider has a bandwith bottleneck.
Waiting 10 or even 5 seconds per screen refresh using a capable DSL setup is a sure sign of a host problem.
That said, I do enjoy the new format, and certainly do appreciate the work that has gone into it, also the work to keep it going. It 'aint' easy.
But the slowness issue is not an end user problem.
Allan
Jan, while being computer stupid, I do know that computers chew up time like nobodies business and the site is looking VERY good these days. So someone is dedicating a lot of time and I figured it was Ian. Just is a shame the site is so slow.
Ian, I am on cable, running a dual Celeron processor, 512meg of ram. Using Ubuntu with Mozilla Firefox. Speed is usually about what you reported. Some days much slower. Most sites I visit change pages almost instantaneously. Do you think that more ram might be the answer?
Bill
Ian, I am on cable, running a dual Celeron processor, 512meg of ram. Using Ubuntu with Mozilla Firefox. Speed is usually about what you reported. Some days much slower. Most sites I visit change pages almost instantaneously. Do you think that more ram might be the answer?
Bill
gordonra
Donation Time
I too, very much appreciate the work that has gone into the new board by all involved!
To provide feedback from the west coast:
Premium Cable Connection
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition Processor (Fastest AMD chip)
4 Gig of 800 mhz DDR RAM
500 GB SATA Drive
NVidia 8600GTS 512 MB Video
100 mbit LAN
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
This machine is a screamer and the uncached pages typically take 7-10 seconds to load. Page loading does seem a bit on the slow side in this "instantanious" world, and certainly when compared to other sites.
Rich
gordonra
Donation Time
Further:
When I ping (82.165.136.141) www.sunbeamalpine.org, I get response in 86ms.
There are 461 domains hosted on this IP address.
Compared to several other sites, like IBM, Motoman, Fanuc, Nextengine, Ford, Pontiac, and Avery Label, the provider was bringing up the rear on ping response time. Of these mentioned, response time ranged from 10ms to 87ms. Usually this is likely due to server load and the number of hosts between the server and the main pipe.
A trace Route shows a reasonable 12 hops to get from me to the server. Unfortunately, I'm not well versed on the results of the trace route report, but it appears that most of the 86ms is at level3.net which appears to be a major east/west link. Based on all of this, I believe the slow down is at the web host server.
http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/AboutUs;jsessionid=67974BFDB6CB84AB5156AF4C61E3E802.TC61b?__frame=_top&__lf=Static
Tech ID:SPAG-35538000
Tech Name:Hostmaster ONEANDONE
Tech Organization:1&1 Internet Inc.
Tech Street1:701 Lee Rd.
Tech Street2:Suite 300
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Chesterbrook
Tech State/ProvinceA
Tech Postal Code:19087
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8774612631
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.6105601501
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:hostmaster@1and1.com
Name Server:NS51.1AND1.COM
Name Server:NS52.1AND1.COM
When I ping (82.165.136.141) www.sunbeamalpine.org, I get response in 86ms.
There are 461 domains hosted on this IP address.
Compared to several other sites, like IBM, Motoman, Fanuc, Nextengine, Ford, Pontiac, and Avery Label, the provider was bringing up the rear on ping response time. Of these mentioned, response time ranged from 10ms to 87ms. Usually this is likely due to server load and the number of hosts between the server and the main pipe.
A trace Route shows a reasonable 12 hops to get from me to the server. Unfortunately, I'm not well versed on the results of the trace route report, but it appears that most of the 86ms is at level3.net which appears to be a major east/west link. Based on all of this, I believe the slow down is at the web host server.
http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/AboutUs;jsessionid=67974BFDB6CB84AB5156AF4C61E3E802.TC61b?__frame=_top&__lf=Static
Tech ID:SPAG-35538000
Tech Name:Hostmaster ONEANDONE
Tech Organization:1&1 Internet Inc.
Tech Street1:701 Lee Rd.
Tech Street2:Suite 300
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Chesterbrook
Tech State/Province
A Tech Postal Code:19087
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8774612631
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.6105601501
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:hostmaster@1and1.com
Name Server:NS51.1AND1.COM
Name Server:NS52.1AND1.COM
AlpineIan
SAOCA Founder
I just got off the phone with 1and1 today and thewy are looking into it. Of course, the first thing they did was try to open the site and he said "it came up instantly." I let him know that myself and 650 users all disagreed and are seeing about a 10 to 15 second delay.
He was going to "run some diagnostics" and told me to check the site again the 30 minutes to see if it was running faster.
He was going to "run some diagnostics" and told me to check the site again the 30 minutes to see if it was running faster.
