Rear brakes binding

[65beam]

brakes

i have never understood why owners do not take their cars to shows. especially with all that goes on in your area. if you have the cars you mention, i would be out and about showing them all the time.

 

[puff4]

August, 2012. New Hope Auto Show. Enjoy, Brad.

 

[65beam]

brakes

this looks like a decent show. where is it held? it appears there is no classification by marques. why is that?

 

[Nickodell]

i have never understood why owners do not take their cars to shows. especially with all that goes on in your area. if you have the cars you mention, i would be out and about showing them all the time.

I took Matilda to a show once. Propped a card on her bonnet describing what she was and a brief history of the model and Sunbeam. In the whole afternoon not a single person stopped by. Everyone was drooling over early Corvettes (some of the ugliest cars, IMHO, ever), chopped and channeled specials (ditto) and admittedly lovely 1950s Bel Airs.

Never again.

 

[puff4]

this looks like a decent show. where is it held? it appears there is no classification by marques. why is that?

New Hope, PA. I've exhibited cars there since 1973, and in the mid-70's won 1st place in the Ferrari Division with a Ferrari 330GTC that I had restored from a shunted car.

And it is classified by marques. If you examine the photo you'll see that MG's are down the whole of the left side and Triumphs are coming up on the right until the Triumph Stag, at which point the 911 is the start of the Porsches which then wrap around to the next isle. This is a very small portion of this show. Here are photos of the individual cars attending the show.

 

[Jersey Alpine]

A fantastic show with almost 300 cars, but nary an Alpine. Did I miss it?

 

[puff4]

A fantastic show with almost 300 cars, but nary an Alpine. Did I miss it?

No, you didn't miss it... there weren't any. And mine has the motor out right now

 

[alpine_64]

Kevin,

nice variety of cars and decent turnout from all the marques attending...

That said,, we are now a fair way from the brakes. i saw matts SVGt at the motoclassica show today, so assume his brakes are now sorted.

 

[mattinoz]

Might attempt to bring this back on topic...sheez
anyway pull the left rear hub off to discover the slave cylinder clips missing allowing the slave to float around, this I think being the cause of the shoes dragging. Anyway fitted new clips and proceeded to bleed the system. This is where things got interesting.
Unlocked the bleed screw and applied pedal....nothing. full pedal. Couldn't push any fluid thru the rears..none.
long story short, the flexy hose to the rears was totally blocked. Replaced same. Now I have all 4 wheels in the braking scenario.

Sorry Michael just saw your post even if I didn't at motorclassica

 

[puff4]

Yeah, Matt, I'm hearing this a LOT with regard to hoses. It's strange, because I never used to hear of brake hoses clogging, yet in the past 2-3 years I've been hearing about it more and more... it's virtually epidemic.

Since most of these cars seem to be running the original brake lines, I wonder if that rubber is reaching end-of-life for all our cars at around the same time? In which case, perhaps we should *all* change out the lines on our cars... being almost like a service bulletin. (Mine were all changed out over the years, so I might have a few more years yet... at least I hope so...)

 

[alpine_64]

Kevin,

My SII had what looked like he original rear hose when i crawled under it early this year.. i was horrified at how petrefied it looked.. cracks all over.. that said it was not leaking. I replaced it the next week as i didnt feel safe after what i had seen. I was wonering if the hoses maybe end up like brake hoses on the front. they collapse on the imside and seal shut leaving the brakes jammed on.

Matt, i have to say you flew the flag for the sunbeams.. seems you were the only one of the alpines that could be bothered washing and polishing before the show... made your car stand out and the others look rather tired.... bit sad given the kind of exposure they get at an event like that.

 

[Paul N.]

. . . . . I was wonering if the hoses maybe end up like brake hoses on the front. they collapse on the imside and seal shut leaving the brakes jammed on.

Yes they do. It's the same internal softening which happens with the hydraulic seals - they soak up conventional polyglycol brake fluid. It can mislead people into thinking there's a servo fault but the difference is that it'll only be one of the fronts or both rears that are locked on and the brake lights won't be on. A servo or master cylinder fault will leave all brakes and the brake lights on.

 

[Paul N.]

Going back to the handbrake:- don't ignore it like a lot of Americans seem to! If you don't use it frequently, the cable will start to bind and eventually seize up which also, obviously, causes the rears to drag.

 

[mattinoz]

Kevin,

My SII had what looked like he original rear hose when i crawled under it early this year.. i was horrified at how petrefied it looked.. cracks all over.. that said it was not leaking. I replaced it the next week as i didnt feel safe after what i had seen. I was wonering if the hoses maybe end up like brake hoses on the front. they collapse on the imside and seal shut leaving the brakes jammed on.

Matt, i have to say you flew the flag for the sunbeams.. seems you were the only one of the alpines that could be bothered washing and polishing before the show... made your car stand out and the others look rather tired.... bit sad given the kind of exposure they get at an event like that.

Thanks Michael, yes I put in about an hours worth of elbow grease for the day Here are a few pics of the event

 

[mattinoz]

and a couple more. Mal Clarkes magnificent blue Alpine complete with celeb on board and a Renown for Kevin

 

[puff4]

Thanks for the Renown pic - VERY nice!

One thing my car has that I've never really seen on another Renown is the Ace Mercury trim rings - like on the Alpines, the trim ring covers the entire rim, from nave plate (hubcap) to the edge of the rim. I'm not sure if I like the wheels with or without them... this car looks great with the black rims, but then the trim rings on my car make the wheels look more "Rolls Royce"-ish, with a full chrome centre.

You can sorta see the trims in this photo from 24 years ago. Yours truly trying his best to look very "James Bond". Clearly not succeeding. (Oh, and the car has continued to look great, whereas I... well... *sigh*)

 

[65beam]

brakes

paul,
what brake fluid do you use?

 

[Nickodell]

Try as you might, Brad, you won't get a rise out of me.

Tried Cialis?