alpine_64
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Al, some of them have a deep red/maroon colour in the ring where the text is, some have black. Originally i figured the black had faded.. but that was its original colour.
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Dash Holes
- Thread starter 61Alpine
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Al, some of them have a deep red/maroon colour in the ring where the text is, some have black. Originally i figured the black had faded.. but that was its original colour.
puff4
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Here you go... the right item for the job...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUNBEAM-TIG...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7dcf28cb&vxp=mtr
(the usual disclaimer... I have no relation to seller, etc.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUNBEAM-TIG...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7dcf28cb&vxp=mtr
(the usual disclaimer... I have no relation to seller, etc.)
61Alpine
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Well is seems that there are two different sizes of plugs. I now have two nice plugs that are to small for the clock hole in my dash.
The hole is original and has not need enlarged.
Any ideas, other than a clock to fill that space. Don't really want to go the clock route.
The hole is original and has not need enlarged.
Any ideas, other than a clock to fill that space. Don't really want to go the clock route.
dash holes- one size fits all
All dashes have the same identical size holes.Obviously the clock hole either got enlarged or he is trying to use the ammeter blank in the clock hole which I doubt.....No picture needed to figure this out....
Speaking of dash emblems... here's a neat tip. I removed a dash emblem the other day to eyeball the center nut holding the windshield.I removed the whole windshield without disturbing the dash or laying on my back. It's the only way to paint an Alpine....
Al
All dashes have the same identical size holes.Obviously the clock hole either got enlarged or he is trying to use the ammeter blank in the clock hole which I doubt.....No picture needed to figure this out....
Speaking of dash emblems... here's a neat tip. I removed a dash emblem the other day to eyeball the center nut holding the windshield.I removed the whole windshield without disturbing the dash or laying on my back. It's the only way to paint an Alpine....
Al
Rob, please clarify. You say you have 2 plugs and neither will fill the clock hole. Are the plugs you have different sizes or are both the same size?
If both plugs are the same size and will fit the ammeter hole on the left, then it is a simple matter that you need one of the larger ones that will fit the clock hole. If one is larger than the ammeter hole but still not large enough to fill the clock hole then you have a problem.
Tom
If both plugs are the same size and will fit the ammeter hole on the left, then it is a simple matter that you need one of the larger ones that will fit the clock hole. If one is larger than the ammeter hole but still not large enough to fill the clock hole then you have a problem.
Tom
61Alpine
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All of the small gauges are the same size. Amp meter gas gauge, water temp and oil pressure are all the same size. Saturday ill pull one and try to fit the plug. The hole I need to fill is definitely larger than those. The plugs I have, the outside diameter fits through the hole with maybe a 1/16" to spare.
Rob, as promised I looked in my stuff and found a one for the clock hole. It's larger and has the words "Routes Group" . It's condition seems about same as the one described in the e-bay auctionPuff 4 linked:
"AM SELLING THE DASHBOARD GUAGE BLANK OUT PLUG. LARGER FOR CENTER OF DASH WHERE A CLOCK MIGHT BE. IN GOOD NORMAL WEAR CONDITION, CHROME IS IN GOOD SHAPE NO PEALING OR PITTING. PLASTIC IS CLEAR, MINOR DULLING. THE BACKING PAINT IS GOOD WITH NO PEALING, THE SILVER PAINT INSIDE IS GOOD, ROOTES GROUP LETTERING IS GOOD FOR ITS AGE. NOT SHOW BY ANY MEANS BUT GOOD USED EXAMPLE FOR YOUR DRIVER. WILL FIT BOTH WOOD & PLASTIC DASH BOARDS, AS THEY HAVE THE LONGER LEGS ON THE BACK TO GRAB IN THE HOLE. FIT TIGERS AND ALPINES 1960 TO 1967. "
The lettering "Routes Group" on mine is silver, not gold like the one in the e-bay listing
Send me an e-mail ( NOT A PM). Just click on my name at the top and click on "send an e-mail"
Tom
"AM SELLING THE DASHBOARD GUAGE BLANK OUT PLUG. LARGER FOR CENTER OF DASH WHERE A CLOCK MIGHT BE. IN GOOD NORMAL WEAR CONDITION, CHROME IS IN GOOD SHAPE NO PEALING OR PITTING. PLASTIC IS CLEAR, MINOR DULLING. THE BACKING PAINT IS GOOD WITH NO PEALING, THE SILVER PAINT INSIDE IS GOOD, ROOTES GROUP LETTERING IS GOOD FOR ITS AGE. NOT SHOW BY ANY MEANS BUT GOOD USED EXAMPLE FOR YOUR DRIVER. WILL FIT BOTH WOOD & PLASTIC DASH BOARDS, AS THEY HAVE THE LONGER LEGS ON THE BACK TO GRAB IN THE HOLE. FIT TIGERS AND ALPINES 1960 TO 1967. "
The lettering "Routes Group" on mine is silver, not gold like the one in the e-bay listing
Send me an e-mail ( NOT A PM). Just click on my name at the top and click on "send an e-mail"
Tom
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In an e-mail to me Rob said:
"I measured the hole and as you said. The clock hole is 2.5". The plugs I have are 2.5" but slide through. I need one the would be 2 7/8" outside diameter. "
I replied:
"Rob, All my dashes are plastic , with a vinyl overlay. If I measure from the backside , measuring only the ID of the hole in the plastic and ignoring the thin vinyl folded into the hole from the front I measure:
Smaller holes like Oil pressure, etc : 2 -1/16"
Plug diameter incl chrome bezel: 2- 1/4"
Clock hole : 2-3/8 "
Plug diameter, inc chrome bezel: 2- 9/16"
If the clock hole in your dash is close to 2 -1/2" I think it was cut oversized and no standard Rootes plug will fit.
I also have a clock and it's outer dia , incl bezel , is 2-9/16" , same as the plug. So buying a standard Rootes / Alpine clock will not solve your problem."
Tom Hayden
"I measured the hole and as you said. The clock hole is 2.5". The plugs I have are 2.5" but slide through. I need one the would be 2 7/8" outside diameter. "
I replied:
"Rob, All my dashes are plastic , with a vinyl overlay. If I measure from the backside , measuring only the ID of the hole in the plastic and ignoring the thin vinyl folded into the hole from the front I measure:
Smaller holes like Oil pressure, etc : 2 -1/16"
Plug diameter incl chrome bezel: 2- 1/4"
Clock hole : 2-3/8 "
Plug diameter, inc chrome bezel: 2- 9/16"
If the clock hole in your dash is close to 2 -1/2" I think it was cut oversized and no standard Rootes plug will fit.
I also have a clock and it's outer dia , incl bezel , is 2-9/16" , same as the plug. So buying a standard Rootes / Alpine clock will not solve your problem."
Tom Hayden
Group, I have attcahed a photo Rob sent me of his dash. It appears to him to be an original, but note that the clock hole is 2-1/2 inches in dia. Bigger than any of my SIV - SV dashes. Is that normal for an earlier Series or does anyone have a good explanation and solution? It seems to me that a standard Alpine plug or Clock will not fit. View attachment 4404
Tom
Tom
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alpine_64
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OK.. photos start to explain whats happening.. The clock hole is 2 1/2.. what surprises me is that the SI-3 dashes have raised areas around the gauges and and the heater controls, they also have small raised posts to locate the switch escutcheons, this lacks all of those .. so for starters its not an early series dash.
this is what the eary dashes look like
this is what the eary dashes look like
alpine_64
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Rob the early cars had no vinyl covering, just painted barkerlite on the SI/II and crackle finish on the S3. All the early cars have the riased gauge mounts as per the picture posted (except the GT with wood dash on S3 GT).. so the dash is not SI/II/3 .. that i guess is a side point.. the clock hole was the saem on all dashes.. so if stuff isn't fitting it must be modified.