Rotisserie Design Using SolidWorks

[Andrew]

Hi Guys,

I thought it would be fun to put SolidWorks to the task of making a full 3D model of the Sunbeam Rotisserie as posted on TEAE web site. I should be able to show a little more detail and a full set of drawing of each part (to include parts to be bent or cut). If anyone is interested in the details after I am finished please chime in and I will make sure to contact you when I am finished.

Here is what I have put together so far, it is not finished so don't start critiquing things!! LOL


All the best,
Andrew

 

[Barry]

Andrew,

Put me down for a signed copy!

 

[65beam]

Just make sure it doesn't bolt to the frame rails by way of the bumper mounting bolts.

 

[DanR]

Andrew, Here are some plans I utilized for my Rotisserie,

 

[BERNARD ROSE]

Andrew, Here are some plans I utilized for my Rotisserie,

Very impressive. I don't have the space nor the talent, but I can certainly appreciate the time and effort that goes into such a project.

 

[Andrew]

So this is what I have finished so far. I hope to have more information from another club member shortly. I will also look at the information that Dan provided. Dan, your design looks a great deal stronger! Chat with everyone again shortly.

 

[65beam]

That looks like you hook to the frame rails which is an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Andrew]

That looks like you hook to the frame rails which is an accident waiting to happen.

I am using the design that was on the TEAE web site. I will make some changes to match what Dan passed on to me. Any insight or thoughts for change would be great. I believe the idea was to attach to the bumper bolts.
The original design information is enclosed. It is hard to see the details, I thought by doing this it would help others. I would like to update it and make it stronger. Again, any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[65beam]

The front frame rails have a captive nut welded to the inside of a thin sheet of steel. Over the years this area gets weak. A member of this forum had his Tiger in the parking lot at SUNI in 2014 and had the bumper and bracket break loose while parked. I had the same thing happen to a series 5 years ago. This area rusts from the inside and it's not something you find by just looking. I've seen several with rust bubbles on the frame rails. Did you ever think why there is a separate tube for the jack? In the 60's a bumper jack was common but Rootes welded that tube in for a reason. It could be because the weight of the bumper is about all the weight that captive nut can hold. The mounting point should be the cross member mounting holes of the frame rails. The same applies to the rear frame rails.

 

[Andrew]

The front frame rails have a captive nut welded to the inside of a thin sheet of steel. Over the years this area gets weak. A member of this forum had his Tiger in the parking lot at SUNI in 2014 and had the bumper and bracket break loose while parked. I had the same thing happen to a series 5 years ago. This area rusts from the inside and it's not something you find by just looking. I've seen several with rust bubbles on the frame rails. Did you ever think why there is a separate tube for the jack? In the 60's a bumper jack was common but Rootes welded that tube in for a reason. It could be because the weight of the bumper is about all the weight that captive nut can hold. The mounting point should be the cross member mounting holes of the frame rails. The same applies to the rear frame rails.

Thanks a bunch, I will make the changes to the design as required and make the cross member the mounting point.
All the best!

 

[DanR]

Change to the cross member will have a great negative effect on the center of gravity when trying to rotate the vehicle whether an Alpine or some other type.

 

[Andrew]

So what I am getting from this is it is the wrong design. I will continue the search.

Thanks a bunch guys.

 

[DanR]

What if you want to rotate an Alpine and not have the cross member mounted ? I do mine frequently with and without the cross member.

I can actually have an engine, tranny and rear assy on my rotisserie ....

Only wish I had included a hydraulic capability of lowering and raising.

 

[Alpine 1789]

Andrew: you may find this article helpful: http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/MenkeRotis/rt-MenkeRotis1.asp. It uses the jack tubes for carrying the weight and the bumper bolts to hold things together. I used this concept for one I built a few years ago from two heavy duty engine stands and everything felt very solid.

 

[DanR]

Might I add, I utilize the bumper and the jack provisions in all cases with the rotisserie.

Suggest you "fix" your bumper and jack problems before attempting to place your Aline on the rotisserie.

I have posted these PIC's before, But, for your viewing pleasure, here they are again.. I used 1" square stock for the piece that fits into the jack hole.

More PIC's are available upon request.

 

[65beam]

Change to the cross member will have a great negative effect on the center of gravity when trying to rotate the vehicle whether an Alpine or some other type.

Use the bolt holes for the crossmember with the crossmember not on the car.

 

[65beam]

This is the best way to secure the body during restoration.

 

[Andrew]

View attachment 15687 View attachment 15688 Might I add, I utilize the bumper and the jack provisions in all cases with the rotisserie.

Suggest you "fix" your bumper and jack problems before attempting to place your Aline on the rotisserie.

I have posted these PIC's before, But, for your viewing pleasure, here they are again.. I used 1" square stock for the piece that fits into the jack hole.

More PIC's are available upon request.

Hi Dan, I like this idea. I would love to see more photos if you can email them or post them on this thread. Email is: drafting “at” ramdesign “dot” on “dot” ca
Thanks a bunch Dan

 

[Mike O'D]

Andrew,

I'm a SolidWorks user as well - great program.

Mike

 

[Andrew]

Andrew,

I'm a SolidWorks user as well - great program.

Mike

Hi Mike, yes I love SolidWorks as well. What field are you in or how do you use the program (surface modeling, sheet metal, assembly modeling etc.)?