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Original Series IV wood gear shifter knob?

Discussion in 'Factory Original Alpines & Tigers' started by rayodesolalpino, Sep 2, 2022.

  1. rayodesolalpino

    rayodesolalpino Gold Level Sponsor

    I have a 1965 Series IV. The PO was notorious for “improvising” items they could not scrounge. I was wondering if my shift knob is original. It looks suspicious. Could someone please confirm?

    Also, if not original…is anyone willing to part with an original wood shift knob?

    Thank you,
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  2. John W

    John W Diamond Level Sponsor

    My Series V came with a knob exactly like that one. I replaced it with an original black knob (smaller, lighter) that I like much better (hard to beat the original Alpine design, on just about everything). Wonder if ANY Alpines (GT ?) came with wooden shift knobs.
     
  3. ernestovumbles

    ernestovumbles Gold Level Sponsor

    My 63 SIII came to me with the black plastic and I changed to wood this year..

    No idea what was original, but I like the wood.

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  4. sunalp

    sunalp Diamond Level Sponsor

    That's an aftermarket shift knob. Alpines never had them from the factory. As a matter of fact I can't remember
    any British sports car that did. Is your SIV early or late? They put the full synchro gearbox in with the SIVa ( later
    cars) The early ones had the non synchro 1st gear. They had different shift patterns, so the shift knobs would be different.
    Hope that helped.
     
  5. puff4

    puff4 Diamond Level Sponsor

    As Sunalp noted, this is an aftermarket knob, and they are quite common, even now, though no longer available new. They were marketed by a number of vendors, but most were made by accessory maker Amco. They came in either wood (walnut) or black leather, and there were a variety of emblems representing many manufacturers. On the Alpine ones, some came with the wide yellow band, like yours, and others had a narrow yellow band. I have one in my Alpine as well, but with the leather covering.
     
  6. rayodesolalpino

    rayodesolalpino Gold Level Sponsor

    Thank you for the info and clarification on shifter knobs. I have a late Series IV with synchro gearbox.
     
  7. alpine_64

    alpine_64 Donation Time

    As mentioned above the alpines all had platsic/ bakerlite shift knobs.

    The early cars had a sort of mushroom shaped one, the later cars a more teardrop shaped one.

    All were black with a white engraved shift pattern.

    AMCO did most of the aftermarket dress up items and offered lots of sunbeam stuff.

    They did various shift knobs, light coloured satin finish like yours. Deep walnut polished, leather and also onyx amd a polished metal one ( that weigh a ton! )

    Sunbeam specialties and classic sunbeam used to stock them.. So if you want a new one a good place to start.

    I bought a couple of NOS ones back in the early 2000s but never ended up fitting them as i liked the feel of the spherical ferrari style one i had on my car with a hillman shifter lever that's more upright and not laid back like the alpine ones
     
  8. puff4

    puff4 Diamond Level Sponsor

    Yeah the all metal ones did weigh a ton - I have one for a big Healey - and they were notorious for ruining gearboxes where the shift lever was angled towards level (big Healey’s, Spitfires, Alpines, etc.). The weight of the knob kept steady downforce pressure on the shift lever when in top gear, causing premature wear on the shifting forks.
     
  9. Silver Creek Sunbeam

    Silver Creek Sunbeam Diamond Level Sponsor

    Wow…didn’t know that. I bought the only one I’ve ever seen personally about a minute and a half after it was listed on eBay (saved search I get emails on).
    Mine is basically a chrome type finish.
     
  10. alpine_64

    alpine_64 Donation Time

    That would be the one... Probably best to keep it a display shelf item.
     
  11. rayodesolalpino

    rayodesolalpino Gold Level Sponsor

    Thank you to all for the insight and education on Alpine shifter knobs. Very helpful. Much appreciated.
     
  12. RootesRooter

    RootesRooter Platinum Level Sponsor

    I used to rest my hand on the shift knob on freeway trips. Then I started having the problem with popping out of third gear. A NOS shift fork from an Arrow Range car solved it. I had a suspicion that resting my hand on the knob might have been responsible but I've never found any backup for that theory - until now.
     
  13. puff4

    puff4 Diamond Level Sponsor

    Yeah, I've rebuilt enough gearboxes that every time I see someone resting their hand on the gear lever it makes me cringe and want to yell "Stop It!" :(:mad:

    (Or resting their foot on the clutch pedal, too for that matter!)
     
  14. RootesRooter

    RootesRooter Platinum Level Sponsor

    A friend of mine recently replaced the throwout bearing on his Hillman Husky for the first time. Afterwards I spotted him riding the clutch at stops and mentioned it. He told me he had always depressed the clutch in the Husky while idling - for the last 40+ YEARS. There's a few 95-year-old lifelong smokers out there, too.


     
  15. Warren

    Warren Bronze Level Sponsor

    Plus one on AMCO aftermarket.
    Seen some in the box. In the US sold by was it MG mitten, BAP Geon. Seems a little hard to believe on the resting of the arm on the shifter. I get it on resting foot on clutch or brake.
    Maybe y'all need a top loader ;)
     
  16. Acollin

    Acollin Platinum Level Sponsor

    Just another aftermarket shift knob- a little different with a narrower yellow band. There must be a ton of them out there. My series v came with the teardrop bakelite on it and this in a “bits” box.
     

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