I was JUST about to Donate/Join, as a form of bribery
to get the SAOCA web master to make some changes to the log In/Log Out process.
On behalf of the club, I'd like to thank you. I guess I'm the closest thing we have to a webmaster. I am not a webmaster. I'm not a computer programmer. I'm a volunteer who inherited Xenforo and researches things way beyond his skillset to manage this site alone. The fact that it hasn't imploded in the past 5 years is a testament to the quality of Xenforo, hundreds of hours of unpaid work done by volunteers, and not a small amount of dumb luck.
I had other suggestions but they ALL have been fixed recently.
Great!
1-On log in, change the default to NO "stay logged in".
...If you stay logged In/auto log In, you set this one time.
If you want to Log Out, you change this EVERY time.
(not sure what the setting, "stay Logged In" buys you, ...IF you Log Out?? )
Sorta yes, sorta no. The "Stay Logged In" buys you the ability to close your browser window and not have to log back in.
Stay Logged In Checked
- If you close your browser window, you can visit the site again without logging back in. How long that works is a bit of a mystery. (Note it doesn't work if you have Private or Incognito mode activated)
- Because most people log in on their personal computers, this is the expected behavior. So box checked is the default setting.
- If you click "Log Out," you'll have to log back in on next visit regardless of checked/unchecked.
Stay Logged In NOT Checked
- If you close your browser window, you have to log back in, even if it's two seconds later.
- If you visit the site on a shared computer, such as at the library or hotel business center, definitely uncheck this box.
- If you click "Log Out," you'll have to log back in on next visit regardless of checked/unchecked.
So essentially, if you want to:
- Log out automatically when you close your browser window, uncheck the "Stay logged in" box (1-click)
- Not have to log in every single time you visit the site, do nothing, leave the box checked
- Log out every time you leave the site, ignore the box, as it's of no use to you
Either way, if you want to be 100% certain you've logged out when you log out, you'll have to click on your username and click the "Log Out" link (2-clicks).
2- On Log Out, change to a ONE Button process.
Currently, for me, it is a 2-3 hit process.
It was a 3 hit until the "Log in banner" JUST got changed to Not scroll off the screen.
BTW, the Log Out button location (on the Mail PM page) would work GREAT IF it was on the same line
as the logged In avatar.
Back to the previous thing, if you want to log out whenever you're done with the site, uncheck "Stay Logged In" (1-click) and simply close your browser window.
Adding a button is not as simple as it sounds. It requires adding custom code into the Xenforo back-end. I've done some research on adding a logout button, and when people ask how, once you wade through the "Don't, because this is the way it works on Facebook and everything else" responses, you get to a vague, "You'll have to program that yourself." We're always looking for volunteers to help research how things like this can be done. I'd be more than happy to add the code snippets if you can find a solution. Thanks!
Also, I'm sure the donation/Join process can be made Easier IF you Don't want to use PP.
-starting with Donation levels clearly obvious without having to go looking for them.
My $.02 ....for now
(Dan R, get ready for the "check in the mail")
Yes, admittedly, donation can be easier if you don't want to use PayPal. You can make credit card payments
through PayPal without having a PayPal account, but without involving PayPal, the only current solution is pay Dan. For another solution, the club would have to get a merchant account through a new payment processor, which seemed like a lot of work the last time we explored it. The ones that are integrated into Xenforo out of the box are:
- Braintree (which is part of PayPal)
- PayPal (which is also PayPal)
- Stripe
- 2Checkout (which on first glance doesn't seem 2Legit)
If you have time to help research Stripe as well, I'd personally appreciate it.
OK, having Just trotted around the NEW Forum, It is WAY different Re Page 1 on top or bottom.
And, not consistent!
I am a member of 8 Forums, None work this way, ....last time I was on them anyway...
So, new tricks to learn.. not a fan of that activity, ...just for change sake?
This, as mentioned in an earlier post, was caused by an add-on plug-in that didn't work out. It's gone now. And the inconsistency is because it takes some time to implement forum by forum by forum, and I needed to get to bed. Again, we're volunteers. Now if I could just find some volunteers to help me with my Sunbeams....
Anyway, enjoy the new site. I hope the concerns that have been solved outweigh the concerns that we can't.