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Future BaT, Sebring Alpine
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Aladin Sane
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Wow, that is a surprise. Having seen that car and spoken with Steven about it I'm shocked.
spmdr
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Ex–12 Hours of Sebring 1962 Sunbeam Alpine Factory Race Car
Bid for the chance to own a Ex–12 Hours of Sebring 1962 Sunbeam Alpine Factory Race Car at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #109,648.
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alpine_64
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I thought the auction description was very poorly written. I think Steve should have been more involved in the way the car and it's history was describedStarted
Ex–12 Hours of Sebring 1962 Sunbeam Alpine Factory Race Car
Bid for the chance to own a Ex–12 Hours of Sebring 1962 Sunbeam Alpine Factory Race Car at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #109,648.
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Aladin Sane
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I didnt understand the verbiage in the listing. Lines like "it is said to have been" seem to cast doubt on the authenticity of this car. I dont think there is any doubt about this cars provenance, but that isn't how the description is written.
The BAT descriptions are written by them so as to place any potential issues with cars they list for sale far away from their liability from any buyers-if they have liability at all.... This being said, this Alpine is an incredible car. I was very happy to see it up close and even sit in it at the last SUNI.
It looks much better than when I had the chance to buy it in 2002 for $900! But that is another story.
It looks much better than when I had the chance to buy it in 2002 for $900! But that is another story.
studmobile
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And will you share that story! Inquiring minds...
alpine_64
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Eric I figured the rather non committal description was to do with potential issues of an air car .. like the ex-Bob Avery Harrington....but Steve's car is well documented and the lineage not in question.
As for you worrying about goofy RHD parts cars with dual electrical systems and some DPO who had cut trans tunnels away as lazy access... We live and learn ... But it's probably best it went to Steve as he did a great job on the resurrection of this important bit of rootes racing history
spmdr
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I'm sure Alcala can give you chapter and verse of the details of buying the car and how the asking price
went up about 4X (as I recall ?) when the seller got wind of the history of the car...
BTW, just in case you are wondering, Steve is finishing up Major Restorations of 2 Tigers as well,
So he will not be without a Sunbeam.
DW
went up about 4X (as I recall ?) when the seller got wind of the history of the car...
BTW, just in case you are wondering, Steve is finishing up Major Restorations of 2 Tigers as well,
So he will not be without a Sunbeam.
DW
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alpine_64
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Dan wasn't the one with the Silverstone wheels on the road last year already?
spmdr
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The two Tiger restorations were Big jobs in their own rights, but for those who have not
read the story of the Sebring Alpine #43, it's a Very good read.
classicmotorsports.com
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read the story of the Sebring Alpine #43, it's a Very good read.
Back In Action, Sunbeam Alpine Goes From Junkyard To Track
This Sunbeam Alpine has history at Sebring but was left in a junkyard, until Steve Silverstein restored it to race once again.
classicmotorsports.com
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spmdr
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To bring this thread to a close,
The Sebring Alpine has been sold.
Steve is not discussing the sale price
or BaT reserve price.
The way I see it, there are 3 Major losers!
1) BaT
2) The Sunbeam community about the value of the car.
3) Other potential (BaT) buyers for the car.
To give you a little bit of history, Steve Alcala put
A lot of time, ambition and money into Another car
and ended up Not seeing the true value of it at the time it was sold.
...only to see it sell for more than 4 + Times the price He sold it for,
a few years later.
It appears Steve was determined Not to let that happen again with the Alpine.
Here is a link to the car Steve sold, The Tommy Lee Speedster
A car with a VERY Colorful history:
This link has more old pictures showing the 4 into 4 side pipes
that Steve replicated but are not shown in later subsequent owner pictures.
kustomrama.com
DW
The Sebring Alpine has been sold.
Steve is not discussing the sale price
or BaT reserve price.
The way I see it, there are 3 Major losers!
1) BaT
2) The Sunbeam community about the value of the car.
3) Other potential (BaT) buyers for the car.
To give you a little bit of history, Steve Alcala put
A lot of time, ambition and money into Another car
and ended up Not seeing the true value of it at the time it was sold.
...only to see it sell for more than 4 + Times the price He sold it for,
a few years later.
It appears Steve was determined Not to let that happen again with the Alpine.
Here is a link to the car Steve sold, The Tommy Lee Speedster
A car with a VERY Colorful history:
This link has more old pictures showing the 4 into 4 side pipes
that Steve replicated but are not shown in later subsequent owner pictures.
1937 Kurtis Tommy Lee Special - Kustomrama
DW
Scotty
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To bring this thread to a close,
The Sebring Alpine has been sold.
Steve is not discussing the sale price
or BaT reserve price.
The way I see it, there are 3 Major losers!
1) BaT
2) The Sunbeam community about the value of the car.
3) Other potential (BaT) buyers for the car.
To give you a little bit of history, Steve Alcala put
A lot of time, ambition and money into Another car
and ended up Not seeing the true value of it at the time it was sold.
...only to see it sell for more than 4 + Times the price He sold it for,
a few years later.
It appears Steve was determined Not to let that happen again with the Alpine.
Here is a link to the car Steve sold, The Tommy Lee Speedster
A car with a VERY Colorful history:
This link has more old pictures showing the 4 into 4 side pipes
that Steve replicated but are not shown in later subsequent owner pictures.
1937 Kurtis Tommy Lee Special - Kustomrama
DW
Stuff like that, I operate with the idea of what it's worth to me. If I get that amount, I'm happy. If the buyer flips it for 4x that, I'm happy for them because there's no telling if I, with my skills and abilities and connections, would be able to get even twice what I got.
I've heard Steve's work is top notch and I'd like for him to get the most he can get. But that's not always the most one will ever get for it. You got to draw a line, set a bar and be happy if you get that.
Aladin Sane
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I'm glad I got to see the car and spend some time talking with Steve at the last SUNI.