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Alpine Judging Guide

Discussion in 'Factory Original Alpines & Tigers' started by Alpine 1789, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. puff4

    puff4 Gold Level Sponsor

    Here ya go, Jim:

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    The only other clue is the screws - they denote separate types of hinge screws for SI, SII, etc. Search the document for the word "armrest" and you'll see what I mean.
     
  2. VaCat33

    VaCat33 Donation Time

    Jim

    Great research and photos...your google certainly works better than mine. I checked the Parts Manual more closely. See Page YV18

    Centre Armrest and Glove box
    2201086 Hinge SI
    2207656 Hinge SII
    2201203 Lock SI
    2207882 Lock SII (pictured on Plate B (292))

    I see no entries to differentiate between LHD and RHD.

    Very interesting about that flip up piece to act as stop/rest for the back opening hinged lid. Did that continue through the end of Alpine production? If not, does anybody know when it stopped? My guess it stopped once S3 was introduced.

    Thanks

    Jim
     
  3. jdoclogan

    jdoclogan Platinum Level Sponsor


    Jim,
    The flip up piece was unique to the Harrington Le Mans (note Bernd's comment for possible explanation: "Wasn't that little flip up piece on the HLM for holding the backrest level once it's folded down ?").

    Also, every model after the Series I was the same basic console.
     
  4. alpine_64

    alpine_64 Donation Time

    The car belonged to john boggis.

    He sent me a dvd with full photographic records of the car.. Sadly a little far from my reach now... However moonstonesIV has a copy... And an equally original round corner SIVGT.... Has ge sent in the photos yet....
     
  5. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Jerry, one of those nice little features that only a Harrington is offering. I also had to learn it from of the HLM afficionados earlier. Always wondered what this little hinged piece was intended for.

    Regarding the S1 console need to check mine. Wonder whether it has 2 lock holes or not. Anyway it's a LHD car and has the lock on the right side...
     
  6. DaveSeries1

    DaveSeries1 Gold Level Sponsor

    Guys, I found a picture of the interior of my original S1 taken in 1970. you can clearly see that the key lock is on the passenger side. Sorry for the lousy picture, just had a Kodak instamatic in those days.
     

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  7. Alpine 1789

    Alpine 1789 SAOCA President Diamond Level Sponsor

    Boy, you have to be really old to remember those!
     
  8. VaCat33

    VaCat33 Donation Time

    Thanks for the info on that little flip up piece. The guide only covers the Series Alpines so one less item to worry about. I did get some photos of the John Boggis SIV and have included several in the guide. Thank you for the continued help on this project.

    Jim L
     
  9. ALC 68A

    ALC 68A Donation Time

    I just need to refit the rubber air tube - at present it has non-original "elephant's trunk" tubing, as I only recently obtained an original rubber one. It came with the correct wire type screw clips, but they are rusty and need buffing up before I can fit the tube. I'll send you the pictures when it's done.

    Steve
     
  10. ALC 68A

    ALC 68A Donation Time

    It is listed, but not illustrated on the plates for some reason. It's under Body Fittings, Miscellaneous Trim, Page YV18 "Centre armrest and glovebox". Unhelpfully, there is no part number, as it's listed as "Not Supplied". There are part numbers listed for the screws, locks and hinges and these are different for Series I and II, but it doesn't answer the original question.

    Steve
     
  11. jdoclogan

    jdoclogan Platinum Level Sponsor

    I have an original Series III GT purchased from the original owner. It came with a single Solex with a single Bat wing air intake. I replaced the Solex with a 36/36 Weber thus these photos don't show it in the Alpine.

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  12. ALC 68A

    ALC 68A Donation Time

    What is your VIN number if you don't mind me asking? The carburettor section of the parts list doesn't give a specific starting VIN number for the changeover from Zeniths to Solexes, but from references elsewhere, it seems to be B9204718 ST and B9203887 GT. However, I'm not sure of this because the two number sequences are so far apart. Mine is B9203243 GT, so I assumed it should be a Zenith car, although it had a Weber fitted on a Solex manifold when I bought it and I had to find all the missing Zenith carbs and parts. Thanks.

    Steve
     
  13. jdoclogan

    jdoclogan Platinum Level Sponsor

    Sent PM
     
  14. Alpine 1789

    Alpine 1789 SAOCA President Diamond Level Sponsor

    No wonder I couldn't find it! :)
     
  15. VaCat33

    VaCat33 Donation Time

    Thanks for the air filter photos. I already have good photos of that design. The batwing style cleaner I am referring to is for the twin Zenith carbs. See drawing from Parts Manual. We also need a photo(s) of the rectangular airbox design for the solex carb.

    Thanks

    Jim L
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  16. ALC 68A

    ALC 68A Donation Time

    I have the Zenith batwing filter arrangement and will send the photos when I have fitted the rubber air tube. I've never seen an Alpine with the rectangular microelement air filter in the UK and no one in the US has provided one, although the parts list says they were fitted on both Series 3 and IV. After the Solex was introduced, the standard ST used the oval based mesh filter and the GT the one in jcdoclogan's photos. Therefore, I'm guessing the rectangular filter was perhaps for special export markets with dusty conditions - were there any of those in the US? I'm thinking Australian or African conditions are more likely. I'm wondering if it may be a part borrowed from the Rapier range, as I think Rootes fitted Solexes on the Series IV model?
     
  17. ALC 68A

    ALC 68A Donation Time

    I've just seen that there are some very clear photos of a Series 3 engine bay with Zenith batwing filter assembly, in the Series 3 picture gallery on this website! And it's LHD. They were posted by Alpine_64. Can you use those?
     
  18. VaCat33

    VaCat33 Donation Time

    Definitely can use those photos. Thanks.

    Jim L
     
  19. VaCat33

    VaCat33 Donation Time

    Hello

    Just a final plug for assistance on the Alpine Judging Guide. I have attached the latest version of the photos we need. I would estimate the guide is 80% complete. We just need these photos to get us home. I know some of you have sent photos of parts not installed. We may eventually use them but for now I am trying to get photos of parts/features on the car. I thank you for your continued support.

    Jim L
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  20. VaCat33

    VaCat33 Donation Time

    Hello All

    it has been almost three months since my last post asking for photos. Now that spring is here for most, I am hoping your cars are more accessible and you can get some of these these photos we need. Photos of original undersides are needed in particular. The list of photos needed is attached to my previous post dated Feb 7, 2021.

    Thanks

    Jim L.
     

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