289 passenger side exhaust manifold

[fairlane292]

Could someone please tell me what Ford manifold was used for the passenger side in the Tiger? If you could provide a replacement part number possibly in Dorman or other mfg, that would be great. Also if you have any pictures of one off the car, that might help me search for it. Thanks, Jim

 

[Warren]

There's some conversation about the difference between a 289 and the 260 model. Later cars may have rid of the asbestos covered choke stove and went to electric. Kind of hard to believe that Duracast would have made two versions though. Got a set in storage with the choke stove fitting.

 

[Barry]

Could someone please tell me what Ford manifold was used for the passenger side in the Tiger? If you could provide a replacement part number possibly in Dorman or other mfg, that would be great. Also if you have any pictures of one off the car, that might help me search for it. Thanks, Jim

A picture is easy. The passenger / right side exhaust manifold is on top in the picture.



IIRC, the driver / left side manifold was a Ford OEM part for a Falcon (???), but the passenger / right side manifold was a Tiger specific part.

 

[volvoguys]

Could someone please tell me what Ford manifold was used for the passenger side in the Tiger? If you could provide a replacement part number possibly in Dorman or other mfg, that would be great. Also if you have any pictures of one off the car, that might help me search for it. Thanks, Jim

I have an OEM left-side exhaust manifold for a 260 MKI/MKIa Tiger. Unsure if it's the same for a 289 MKII.

Mark ..... volvoguys@comcast.net

 

[Barry]

I have an OEM left-side exhaust manifold for a 260 MKI/MKIa Tiger. Unsure if it's the same for a 289 MKII.

Mark ..... volvoguys@comcast.net

The OP asked what Ford manifold was used for the passenger side in the Tiger. I assume (yes, I know) that refers to the right side.

The OP did not say that he needed a passenger / right side exhaust manifold to use on a Tiger. I suspect that he is attempting to install a 289 SBF engine in a 1969 Datsun 1600 / 2000 roadster and thinks that a factory right side Tiger exhaust manifold will work for that application.

 

[volvoguys]

The OP asked what Ford manifold was used for the passenger side in the Tiger. I assume (yes, I know) that refers to the right side.

The OP did not say that he needed a passenger / right side exhaust manifold to use on a Tiger. I suspect that he is attempting to install a 289 SBF engine in a 1969 Datsun 1600 / 2000 roadster and thinks that a factory right side Tiger exhaust manifold will work for that application.

Thank you for clarifying the OP's request, Barry. My unintended mistake. I have both left and right side 260 Tiger exhaust manifolds.

And my compliments on how you somehow discerned he intends to use them on a Datsun.

 

[Barry]

Once upon a time long long ago, I was trained to be both suspicious and a snoop. The OP's profile shows "Interests: Roadsters" and "Vehicle: 1969 Datsun roadster". Looking for a uniquely Tiger part, but no mention of having a Tiger. Hmmm? Sometimes what was not said is more telling than what was said. And I may be completely wrong, not for the first time.

FWIW, I think a SBF in a Datsun roadster would be a hoot. Probably not easy and sure to offend the purists, but that has been the case for a lot of historically successful cars.

In any case, you may still have a customer for the passenger / right side manifold.

 

[fairlane292]

Yeah the top in the picture is what I would be interested in. I’m not surprised it’s Tiger specific as I looked at every RH manifold for the 289-302 and the best I could come up with for fitment clearance is the early Mustang 289 which basically dumps out the firewall end. All others flare outward and that’s a fitment issue.
Being that it’s Tiger specific I suspect the availability and cost is not very nice and if it needs to be replaced then it’s back chasing again. That said, if folks have info on securing a good one I would be very interested in hearing that. Thanks everyone. Jim

Once upon a time long long ago, I was trained to be a snoop. The OP's profile shows "Interests: Roadsters" and "Vehicle: 1969 Datsun roadster". No mention of a Tiger. Hmmm?

You might still have a customer for the passenger / right side manifold.

I realize by the name of this forum that it is for current owners of the Sunbeam Alpine but while building several projects over the years and utilizing numerous forums primarily for research I never ran into anyone raising a concern about questions relating to parts from or for a different vehicle than the forum is primarily intended for. In my current build which is using a Mustang Foxbody 5.0 driveline I have experienced terrific response from folks who know I'm not building or owning a Foxbody Mustang. The project uses Toyota Prius electric steering (often used in custom classic builds); noone on the Prius forum cares if the question is from a current Prius owner. I see that you are doing a GM V6 in your Alpine Series V and no doubt if you have questions adapting that engine that any forum(s) you ask those questions in, people will just be happy to share their knowledge and experience with you. That's what I do a lot of on the Datsun Roadster forums. If I have the information someone is looking for I enjoy sharing. I don't care what they are building. Maybe they are putting a Beetle body on a rusted out Datsun Roadster. I would simply find that interesting and even if they wanted to buy extra parts that I have to complete their project I am happy to help.

In college one of my teachers had a Tiger and would park it in the same spot outside the dorm where my room was a few stories up. It was always amazing to hear the car pull in and out most days. I always wanted a Tiger and didn't have the money then; and today a nice one is not in my budget. Since I have quite a bit of background and experience with the Datsun Roadster and the Mustang 5.0, this is my way to create something along the lines of the Tiger that 1. I "can" afford and 2. I can do the fabrication and rotisserie restoration almost entirely by myself. Anyway, that's the back story. I love getting people the answers to their classic car restoration questions when I can and it never crosses my mind to make any judgements about what they will use the answers or parts for.

All that said I do appreciate the aspect of hard to find Tiger parts going to something other than the Tiger, which it seems the RH manifold is. Without asking the question however I would not know if was an OEM part that I can simply get from Dorman like the LH manifold is.

 

[Warren]

Good luck with the Datsun. A pal had a 2000 in High school. It was the later 2000 with a larger windscreen. There a Japanese car show locally in So. Cal. and when you are there you realize how imitation is a great compliment in the styling world of car design. Back to the future " All the best stuff is made in Japan."
I know a few guys that would like the 5 speed gear box out of a Datsun.

Good to see the discussion and 302 application. Probably nobody will split a set of Tiger manifolds, and a lot are sitting in a heap with other stock parts as a lot of Tiger guys retain stock parts for the next caretaker. That is until they get to the point of no return of a Modified Tiger big brakes etc. I've sold spare sets for 300 but that was not too long ago. Now I'd expect 450 to 500 .

 

[260Alpine]

Since originality is not an issue, Fonz on this board used the driver side (Falcon) on both sides.

 

[fairlane292]

Good luck with the Datsun. A pal had a 2000 in High school. It was the later 2000 with a larger windscreen. There a Japanese car show locally in So. Cal. and when you are there you realize how imitation is a great compliment in the styling world of car design. Back to the future " All the best stuff is made in Japan."
I know a few guys that would like the 5 speed gear box out of a Datsun.

Good to see the discussion and 302 application. Probably nobody will split a set of Tiger manifolds, and a lot are sitting in a heap with other stock parts as a lot of Tiger guys retain stock parts for the next caretaker. That is until they get to the point of no return of a Modified Tiger big brakes etc. I've sold spare sets for 300 but that was not too long ago. Now I'd expect 450 to 500 .

Thanks for the kind words. The Dorman 674-152 on the driver side is a great choice; I was able to get a new 64-68 mustang for the passenger side. (From what I could see the new OE on the Mustang ones come in sets only. I just happened to find a pass only new on EBay). Both of these are very compact to the block If I was building a Tiger from an Alpine I’d prob start with these two manifolds since new ones they are readily available. I have a very short video that shows how compact these two particular manifolds are to the block. This is important in my build because I want the exhaust down inside the frame rails and then under the car. Pretty narrow inside the frame rails of the Datsun as I suspect it is in the Alpine.
I’m building from a 1600 that was being restored but was burned in the owner’s garage fire along with most of parts. He couldn’t bring himself to.redo the work that was done. Engine was not matching numbers and I wouldn’t be motivated to do a rotisserie restoration for a 96 hp roadster. So I bought the roller (body shell and frame) and the project has begun.
I do have a great parts car for the build and have pretty much everything now to complete one car. I’ll have a 4-speed left over but the 5-speed from the 2000 is much more desirable of course and more difficult to get; but they are out there for sure. I’ll try to add that short video that shows where I landed with the two manifolds. I don’t believe one can get a set any closer to the block. Thanks again. Jim

 

[fairlane292]

Doesn’t look like I can add a short video. Anyway both manifolds look about the same from above, looking down on both sides of the block. Picture I added was driver side I believe; not that it matters.

 

[fordlandia]

For more information regarding the unique Tiger right side exhaust manifold, here is a photo of a recent TE/AE newsletter article. For even more information and photos, check out this link on the C.A.T. forum: https://www.catmbr.org/cat-forum/threads/questions-regarding-original-rt-side-exhaust-header.8891/

 

[mikephillips]

Since the Ford product r/h manifold apparently wouldn't allow the pipe to clear the firewall and the Tiger specific manifold is near and dear, maybe consider a set if Tiger headers you can get, although I don't know current prices.

 

[fordlandia]

Every now and then I think about selling my right side original manifold (pictured in Ron's article, above), along with the original driver's side. Problem is, I've never figured out what a fair price would be. I suppose an auction would provide an answer, but I am not crazy about eBay. Anyone willing to suggest a reasonable price range?