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what CAN be done ? alpine V8
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DanR
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It is called the "Lack of Room". Another word is clearance.....
If you want to keep your stock steering in your Alpine I suggest you can do like lots of others have done go with some sort of 4 cyl or as I have done....a FORD V6.
It "looks" like it was made to be there! It fits so well there is basically no destruction to the structure of your Alpine.
The removal of the stock Alpine engine mounts on the crossmember are spot welded in several places and can be removed with a good cold chisel. Some Guys are saying it may be possible to get out of enlarging the transmission tunnel also, if you utilize an internal hyd release bearing.
Take a good look at the documentation I put together on Converting your Alpine using a FORD 2.8 V6. The link: http://danr.mhartman.net/
If you want to keep your stock steering in your Alpine I suggest you can do like lots of others have done go with some sort of 4 cyl or as I have done....a FORD V6.
It "looks" like it was made to be there! It fits so well there is basically no destruction to the structure of your Alpine.
The removal of the stock Alpine engine mounts on the crossmember are spot welded in several places and can be removed with a good cold chisel. Some Guys are saying it may be possible to get out of enlarging the transmission tunnel also, if you utilize an internal hyd release bearing.
Take a good look at the documentation I put together on Converting your Alpine using a FORD 2.8 V6. The link: http://danr.mhartman.net/
Do you mean "Is there a V8 that will fit into an Alpine and retain stock steering?" A Ford "60" might do it. But then it might not. Starter clearance could be an issue. Starter clearance is often an issue regardless of engine size and configuration.
Bill
DanR
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Mr Bill are you referring to the little flathead V8 from back around 1937-'40? Didn't know you were the old
alpine_64
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Long and the short.. Yes ...even the Windsor v8 used in the tiger will fit with stock steering.
The first prototype ( proof of concept) car by ken miles had the stock steering and an auto trans.
Now.. Should you...NO....
The motor is too far forward and the handling was considered dangerous. Thats why rootes used the shelby prototype.. Engine moved back for balance, rack so it can be down the front for room ( note the compromise of bent steering arms and negative ackerman angle)
If you want a motor swap thats straight forward and produces good results.. The v6 conversion had parts for it... A wealth of knowledge and produces a great handling car.
If you want a v8... Buy a tiger... Or be very good at fabrication... Joel on the forum has documented some of his v8 conversions.. But he is a skilled operator.
The first prototype ( proof of concept) car by ken miles had the stock steering and an auto trans.
Now.. Should you...NO....
The motor is too far forward and the handling was considered dangerous. Thats why rootes used the shelby prototype.. Engine moved back for balance, rack so it can be down the front for room ( note the compromise of bent steering arms and negative ackerman angle)
If you want a motor swap thats straight forward and produces good results.. The v6 conversion had parts for it... A wealth of knowledge and produces a great handling car.
If you want a v8... Buy a tiger... Or be very good at fabrication... Joel on the forum has documented some of his v8 conversions.. But he is a skilled operator.
Yes, that one. I'm really not that old. I remember seeing one in a junk yard when I was about ten years old. Was really struck by the size. Dad later told me it was a "60". I think that was the first and last "60" I ever saw.Mr Bill are you referring to the little flathead V8 from back around 1937-'40? Didn't know you were the old
Bill
Barry
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Mr Bill are you referring to the little flathead V8 from back around 1937-'40? Didn't know you were the old
It was actually from 1932 to 1953.
DanR
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I was not familiar with all the years it was available or produced. I had some of the 85 HP FORD in my '34 2dr Sedan, '40 Ford Coupes. Then, I discovered the '51 Olds engine made the Coupe a little faster
My favorite Race Car Driver back when.... was Fire Ball Roberts.
husky drvr
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They lasted till 1961 in France.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...-1961-found/&usg=AOvVaw0UUv38zzdzVZss6NtO93xr
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...-1961-found/&usg=AOvVaw0UUv38zzdzVZss6NtO93xr
The French military used the flattie like forever, but I'm pretty sure not the 60 version. I was always under the impression it disappeared in the late '30's. The 60 was incredibly popular in post war racing, king of the midget racing circuit. I well remember the sound of the little mill and smell of the burned castor oil hanging in the air. Late '40s, before I knew of the engines existence.
Bill
Bill
260Alpine
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Simca used the motor until 1975 with the Ardun style OHV heads 140HP stock out of 2.5 liters.
https://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/simca/simca-aquilon.html
https://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/simca/simca-aquilon.html
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ARDUN HEADS
studmobile
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An interesting attempt at a V8 conversion. Never saw a Mustang ll front end used. Wonder how many pounds of Bondo were used.
https://greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/trinity-1964-sunbeam-alpine/7184346449.html
https://greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/trinity-1964-sunbeam-alpine/7184346449.html
Looks like Alpine sheet metal to me ad says suspension.