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Tiger clone (Alger) on eBay

Discussion in 'Sunbeam Tiger' started by volvoguys, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. volvoguys

    volvoguys Diamond Level Sponsor

    Okay, I get the interest in V8-ing an Alpine to an Alger but have a real problem when it's called a Tiger. The eBay seller makes a half-hearted effort to disclose the possibility of it being a clone at the very bottom of the listing but repeatedly refers it to a Tiger:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Sunbe...ash=item1ccf474b8a:g:hU4AAOSwWKpctOgA&vxp=mtr

    To the unfamiliar ... be careful ....... this is almost certainly a rebodied Alpine.

    Mark ..... volvoguys
     
  2. George Coleman

    George Coleman Gold Level Sponsor

    The picture of under the hood area of the brake master tells me that it is a Alpine and the trunk area as well.
     
  3. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    Yes but it looks nice, as they almost always do in pictures. It sucks that eBay does not police the VIN requirement they have listed in their rules. I guess if it has the Tiger VIN and title its worth more at least in Europe ;)
     
  4. 65beam

    65beam Donation Time

    It seems that a seller can show any VIN number or any combination they want when listing a car for sale. I don't think E Bay has the capability to check the listed VIN number. A privacy issue could come into play and there is no reason to list info that could reveal private info which could lead to liability issues.
     
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  5. sunalp

    sunalp Gold Level Sponsor

    Pet peeve of mine are the cheezy door panels with screws! I guess I'm just a stickler for details.
     
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  6. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    eBay doesn't because it doesn't want to , Craigslist doesn't either. VIN numbers are not private when selling a car of course there is no enforcement other than caveat de emptor. I'm pretty lazy I often save the old registration or title copy and put that on my ad for sale. My address isn't on the ad the vin number is and I don't have to hunt and peck it out. Anyone can run a VIN check on numerous sites and easily on a Tiger. You can't get someones address from a VIN number or plate number not since a actress got murdered Rebecca's law in California. This seller is selling a cloned car that he desires to sell without revealing that it has an Alpine tag or a Tiger tag that was moved which isn't legal .
     
  7. 65beam

    65beam Donation Time

    Warren,
    The facts are that no two people have the same way of thinking. If a potential buyer has interest in the car, then the buyer will communicate with the seller to verify the needed details such as the VIN. I've bought several cars on E Bay and have always done this. That's common sense. Other lurkers will state on forums or facebook concerning what's wrong and also post negative thoughts concerning the car but there's no reason for this since they have no intentions of buying it so why do they do it? Those are the facts.
     
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  8. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    Thanks but no thanks on the Sociology 101 class. The people you tar as Lurkers are those concerned with the fact that the seller a Realtor is playing a shell game . I don't think he's concerned with privacy unless you are talking the true and known identity of this car. As I recall I have seen 15 or more comments of Lurkers commenting on other sites raising the yellow flag on a seller that STARTED with a lie then has pulled back to saying "might, and my Tiger is also registered as an Alpine." That's a big of a red herring as if I said my titled as a 67 Tiger could be a MK2. I'm sure they do "it" like our OP did here its called public service concerning a misrepresented car.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2019
  9. volvoguys

    volvoguys Diamond Level Sponsor

    Yesterday the seller replied to my question asking about the VIN. He included a few pics of the VIN with the prefix
    B940 which confirms that it's not a authentic Tiger but a clone.

    Still no mention of VIN in the listing.
     
  10. 65beam

    65beam Donation Time

    You're welcome.
     
  11. Scott Rodrigues

    Scott Rodrigues Donation Time

    I feel as long as you're honest with what exactly it is, you're golden. I would drive the hell out of this car and not feel one bit concerned or bad. If it was a real Tiger, however...
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2019
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