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The money spent buying that corvette could......

DanR

Diamond Level Sponsor
A man named Tom Nicholson posted on his Facebook account the sports car that he had just bought and how a man approached and told him that the money used to buy this car could've fed thousands of less fortunate people. His response to this man made him famous on the internet.


READ his story as stated on Facebook below:


A guy looked at my Corvette the other day and said,

"I wonder how many people could have been fed for the money that sports car cost?


I replied I'm not sure;

it fed a lot of families in Bowling Green, Kentucky who built it,

it fed the people who make the tires,

it fed the people who made the components that went into it,

it fed the people in the copper mine who mined the copper for the wires,

it fed people in at Caterpillar who make the trucks that haul the copper ore.

It fed the trucking people who hauled it from the plant to the dealer

and fed the people working at the dealership and their families.


BUT...I have to admit, I guess I really don’t know how many people it fed.

That is the difference between capitalism and the welfare mentality.


When you buy something, you put money in people’s pockets and give them

dignity for their skills. When you give someone something for nothing, you

rob them of their dignity and self-worth.


Capitalism is freely giving your money in exchange for something of value .

Socialism is having the government take your money against your will and

give it to someone else for doing nothing.
 

Warren

Bronze Level Sponsor
I looked forward to warming the globe by supporting the oil and gas industry with my V8 cars. Here are some rule breakers from the Austin Healy club today doing the same.
 

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65beam

Donation Time
There was a local cruise in yesterday at one of the body shops in the town about 20 miles east of us. Last weekend the cruise in started here in town and the cars cruised down the 4.5 mile straight stretch of the four lane U.S. Rt 23 to the town south of us ,cruised thru the streets of that town, turned and cruised north back to our town and then did it all over the second time. The local cops were leading the way.
 

puff4

Platinum Level Sponsor
I took my MG Club folks on a country cruise/rally yesterday. See my FB page for pics, etc. Great fun. As to COVID-19, I will respect others by doing all I can to not transmit any microbes I may have on/in me, but I refuse to be on house arrest. I'm married to a career microbiologist and have a son who works in a major city hospital's emergency room - I know the facts, and trust me, the news you see has been manipulated. Big-time.

As to the above quote, yes, welfare has been the vilest thing we could have done to this country's poor. Generations have grown up not ever having seen a parent get up and go to work. They simply don't know the concept. It's a virtual prison for those entrapped in it.

If you want to get a man to hate you, start giving him money for nothing. At first he may like you, but over time he will grow to detest you. The same is true of countries giving money to other countries, BTW.
 

65beam

Donation Time
I took my MG Club folks on a country cruise/rally yesterday. See my FB page for pics, etc. Great fun. As to COVID-19, I will respect others by doing all I can to not transmit any microbes I may have on/in me, but I refuse to be on house arrest. I'm married to a career microbiologist and have a son who works in a major city hospital's emergency room - I know the facts, and trust me, the news you see has been manipulated. Big-time.

I have to agree about the manipulation. As Paul Harvey once said, " Here's the rest of the story". My wife has three degrees in the medical field and sees cardiac patients. We heard the rest of the story when she was admitted to the hospital on April 19 where we learned first hand what the final guidelines are to warrant testing for Covid 19. There are 19 locations owned by the hospital where she has worked since 1974 and some of these locations are assisted living, nursing homes, clinics, etc. so they're up to speed. They evaluate the symptoms, test for influenza A & B, and other corona virus. If a patient tests negative for all of the other things then comes Covid 19 testing. They have in house testing capabilities. Jean happened to test positive for the Corona Virus OC 43. They call it a Beta virus that causes the common cold and also can turn into pneumonia which is what happened to her. Five days in the hospital. At least she hasn't been seeing patients because she and others in cardiology that have health problems took 6 weeks of FMLA in March because a slow down of what procedures, etc. could be done was expected so she's now off for at least another week. We've had four cases in our county and they have recovered and the surrounding counties have maybe 6 to 8 cases. What the media doesn't say is that the county to the east of us has 6 cases with 3 of those being in prison in northern Ohio. The same goes in other counties.
 

Bill Blue

Platinum Level Sponsor
Puff - could you possibly tell us exactly what has been manipulated?

65beam - somehow I missed the rest of the story. Could you dumb it down to my level? I think it is well known that in most instances you must meet certain criteria in order to be tested for Covid 19. As to patient location, sounds like the data is being reported in accordance with Ohio's law defining prisoner residence. Don't like the data, change the law.

Bill
 

65beam

Donation Time
Puff - could you possibly tell us exactly what has been manipulated?

65beam - somehow I missed the rest of the story. Could you dumb it down to my level? I think it is well known that in most instances you must meet certain criteria in order to be tested for Covid 19. As to patient location, sounds like the data is being reported in accordance with Ohio's law defining prisoner residence. Don't like the data, change the law.

Bill
Bill,
About the rest of the story, I just heard a news person that thanked a person from one of the drug company for his opinion. How many opinions from both medical professionals, politicians and news media are out there? Then you add the insurance companies and lawyers. Change a Law????????
 

Warren

Bronze Level Sponsor
Yes how many of you got a discount from your insurance company because your car was only being used 10 mi a week ?
That's kind of a big deal if you have five cars. You don't hear them telling you, oh why don't you lower the liability on some cars that you're not driving. That's because some companies don't allow you to carry split limits between vehicles. The other reason is they don't want to lose any money but they want to pretend like they give a s*** and care about your pocketbook. You certainly don't hear them tell you that you could just take the insurance off a vehicle. When you do they say well they're going to cancel your registration, "in states that have mandatory insurance laws." What they don't tell you is that usually takes them about 45 days so you can cancel it plus you could fill out the online form called a certificate of non-use which would make it so you didn't get the cancellation on the 46th day. The bottom line here is everybody has their level of expertise on many things but the people in power think we're all too stupid to understand the finer details of anything past reality TV.
I also believe that states are getting money depending upon how many cases they can come up with... You don't see that reported a lot , and it is incredibly hard to separate opinion from fact . For goodness sake if you're going to live in a 24-hour news channel pick different channels and different sources, and good luck trying to separate the fact from the fiction or opinion or the bent facts so they can get paid more. It's like that old California picture of ___ . ____ attorney got me 13 million dollars and they never showed the bottom half of the guy's body.
Oh and one more thing did you guys see the video of all the guys in California prisons swapping spit so they could test positive and get out of jail free , well nearly free.
There's a big surprise there, the jail is not a deterrent crowd gets a win win.
 
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Bill Blue

Platinum Level Sponsor
Yes, change the law. Why complain about something that is being done in accordance with state law? Its not like the people keeping the numbers are doing it this way to skew the numbers.

I don't understand your problem with news story. How is that manipulation? Yes, everybody has an opinion. Some based on fact, some not. Some are valuable, some are not. What is a reporter supposed to report?

Bill
 

Bill Blue

Platinum Level Sponsor
Pay states based on number case, makes no sense. Who would pay the states based on the number of reported cases?
Bill
 
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65beam

Donation Time
Yes, change the law. Why complain about something that is being done in accordance with state law? Its not like the people keeping the numbers are doing it this way to skew the numbers.

I don't understand your problem with news story. How is that manipulation? Yes, everybody has an opinion. Some based on fact, some not. Some are valuable, some are not. What is a reporter supposed to report?

Bill
I seem to remember that one of the networks recently had to issue an apology for not reporting the rest of the conversation.
 

husky drvr

Platinum Level Sponsor
Pay states based on number case, makes no sense. Who would pay the states based on the number of reported cases?
Bill

This is an observation. If all the testing for other types of flu is occurring, then why isn't that data presented along with C-19 case numbers? Since C-19 hit this area, I've not observed a single report comparing infections or worse outcomes. Is it because it would show C-19, although a serious problem in itself, in the overall statistical picture is not that big of a problem? Is it because numbers are important in themselves creating cross reporting issues implying funds are doled out by apparent need? Or is it because accurate, overall reporting would trivialize both political and news outlets ability to draw attention to them selves with their "Chicken Little" productions? I'll never forget the NBC news commercial wherein Tom Brokaw flatly stated " ... bring you the nightly news and tell you what it means." Why not just issue complete, factual reports without editorializing the information?

I don't know the answers and haven't looked for any. My opinion would be that bad reporting ranges from, at worst, elitism, manipulation, competition for ratings, down to just being unwilling or too incompetent to report all pertinent facts. Probably as many reasons as people working in the news industry. A final thought, I find it interesting the things that didn't get reported for awhile that are now starting to have time made for them again. Wasn't it Jerry Seinfeld that said, “It’s amazing that the amount of news that happens in the world every day always just exactly fits the newspaper”?
 

65beam

Donation Time
This is an observation. If all the testing for other types of flu is occurring, then why isn't that data presented along with C-19 case numbers? Since C-19 hit this area, I've not observed a single report comparing infections or worse outcomes. Is it because it would show C-19, although a serious problem in itself, in the overall statistical picture is not that big of a problem? Is it because numbers are important in themselves creating cross reporting issues implying funds are doled out by apparent need? Or is it because accurate, overall reporting would trivialize both political and news outlets ability to draw attention to them selves with their "Chicken Little" productions? I'll never forget the NBC news commercial wherein Tom Brokaw flatly stated " ... bring you the nightly news and tell you what it means." Why not just issue complete, factual reports without editorializing the information?

I don't know the answers and haven't looked for any. My opinion would be that bad reporting ranges from, at worst, elitism, manipulation, competition for ratings, down to just being unwilling or too incompetent to report all pertinent facts. Probably as many reasons as people working in the news industry. A final thought, I find it interesting the things that didn't get reported for awhile that are now starting to have time made for them again. Wasn't it Jerry Seinfeld that said, “It’s amazing that the amount of news that happens in the world every day always just exactly fits the newspaper”?
Don't forget TV networks and awards for fantastic reporting with no regard as far as being right or whether they did an edit job.
 

MikeH

Diamond Level Sponsor
...That's kind of a big deal if you have five cars. You don't hear them telling you, oh why don't you lower the liability on some cars that you're not driving. That's because some companies don't allow you to carry split limits between vehicles. The other reason is they don't want to lose any money but they want to pretend like they give a s*** and care about your pocketbook. You certainly don't hear them tell you that you could just take the insurance off a vehicle. When you do they say well they're going to cancel your registration, "in states that have mandatory insurance laws." What they don't tell you is that usually takes them about 45 days so you can cancel it plus you could fill out the online form called a certificate of non-use which would make it so you didn't get the cancellation on the 46th day...

Try 12 registered. I always wondered why liability is on the vehicle and not the driver. You can only drive 1 at a time.
 

puff4

Platinum Level Sponsor
Puff - could you possibly tell us exactly what has been manipulated?
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Bill

Well, one of the facts that’s not been reported by the media is that hospitals get a special compensatory payment of $13K from the Feds for every diagnosed Covid-19 patient, and and if they go on a vent - for even 5 minutes - there’s an additional payment of $39K. Now, if you were a hospital in need of funds (and very few aren’t), what would you do? Given this is the case, how accurate do you think the stats are that are being reported?

Another thing that’s not been widely reported is that most hospitals are virtually EMPTY. My son does triage in the emergency room of a major metropolitan hospital and his hours have been drastically cut - he’s now only working (3) 8-hour shifts per week - pre-Covid he was doing (4) 12-hour shifts per week, and often was called in for overtime work. And my sister-in-law was just laid off from her job as a major hospital’s chief medical librarian. This isn’t about flattening any curve. It’s about politics.
 

65beam

Donation Time
Well, one of the facts that’s not been reported by the media is that hospitals get a special compensatory payment of $13K from the Feds for every diagnosed Covid-19 patient, and and if they go on a vent - for even 5 minutes - there’s an additional payment of $39K. Now, if you were a hospital in need of funds (and very few aren’t), what would you do? Given this is the case, how accurate do you think the stats are that are being reported?

Another thing that’s not been widely reported is that most hospitals are virtually EMPTY. My son does triage in the emergency room of a major metropolitan hospital and his hours have been drastically cut - he’s now only working (3) 8-hour shifts per week - pre-Covid he was doing (4) 12-hour shifts per week, and often was called in for overtime work. And my sister-in-law was just laid off from her job as a major hospital’s chief medical librarian. This isn’t about flattening any curve. It’s about politics.
There are 5 cardiac ultra sound techs at the hospital where my wife works. This doesn't include their other clinics and another hospital. When the shut down came about the techs at the main hospital where she works were scheduled so that two would work on Monday and take off the next day and two others would work the day the others are off. Their work time was cut to working 5 days in a pay period instead of 10. The perdiam filled in other times. Another hospital north of us furloughed 1/3 of their workers. Total number of employees under normal conditions in all of their locations is around 3500. These folks were not laid off but furloughed. Our niece manages one of their sites in another town and all managers had to take a 13% cut in salary but work the same hours. Hours for other employees were also cut. Politics and protests! Reminds me of the 60's.
 

Warren

Bronze Level Sponsor
The Mrs W. was an RN that was a charge nurse on for the majority of her career. When I'm not getting the 24 hour news cycle I'm getting her report and the per diem types and others probably not getting floated. I've heard enough most days and go hang out near the beach idling and taunting Rita and those who are doing a crap ass job even remotely identifying as a lovely meter maid.
Oh and if you didn't hear the Dr. Fauci hook up advice... Just to lighten the mood here...

https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/sex-and-dating/dr-fauci-quarantine-tinder-hookups
 
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