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Non Le mans wanted

Discussion in 'Harrington Alpine' started by Limey, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. jumpinjan

    jumpinjan Gold Level Sponsor

    There's some tricky fitting to be done with the sheetmetal. Its going to take some metalworking skills and the right equipment to do it right.
    Jan
     
  2. Limey

    Limey Diamond Level Sponsor

    Thanks Jan,

    I'll be having that done by specialists.
    I know an owner who i will ask if i can use his for ref.

    I don't mind the difficulty but the brick wall of ignorance is a different matter.

    I looked on the site but can't find shots of an HA with the roof off.

    Many thanks as always. I wouldn't do this without you guys to speak to.

    Oliver
     
  3. Harrington Jan

    Harrington Jan Bronze Level Sponsor

    Hey,
    I've sent you the pic you are talking about.
     
  4. Limey

    Limey Diamond Level Sponsor

    OK. I have bought 436 FBM. I have always wanted one; I love the shape, the history and the rarity. And now the dinky swweetly engineered cantilever boot. Genius.

    I went to see it last weekend with a hangover but reigned back from buying it, figuring I needed a sharper brain. It is a big project, all in boxes and everything is rough as a bears arse. Common sense prevailed and I made an offer that was accepted:D

    The headlining is in place and in one piece. The sunvisors like wise. All the body plates and numbers are there also and the paperwork is good. The overdrive is the early type with the external copper pipe and the engine cast date is good as are the side exit distrubutor cap and ancillaries that point to the right period engine.

    No prop and worse, no petrol tank; thats going to be tricky. also no rear side glasses but I reckon I can replace those. 3 eared petrol cap is a bonus but I only have half the Harrington script for the boot. Maybe the other half is in a box. Doors and glass are there also as are the original carpets

    I realy need to see another cantilever type. They appear not to have the cross bar behind the seats. The interior trim indicates that this is so, running from the door all the way to the boot in one piece. The croos bar is much further down the body at the top of the wee boot lid. View attachment 2526 View attachment 2527


    The back seat is a hinged 3 piece affair that folds flat (I'm told as per HLMs) Seat squabs as per photo above (HLM?)
    Splined axles wire wheels and 3 ear knock offs are there.

    I hope to pick it up in a week or two and do a full survey.

    How many cantilever HA's out there? Any one know? There are only two on the register but there are probably a couple of others out there I imagine.

    My biggest problem now is information. I think I'll have to go to the Harrington meet next year definately.

    Many thanks to Jan who not only tipped me off but has been incredibly helpfull to me this past week with advice and photos. He really is keeping the Harrington alive. I hope I can be worthy :)

    Lots of post to come

    All the best

    Oliver
     
  5. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Congratulations for your purchase. Was also considering to buy that one but to many projects already. Love the cantilever boot. Pls. issue pictures- as many as possible. The Harrington crowd is always interested...
     
  6. napa 1

    napa 1 Platinum Level Sponsor

    congratulations Limey. Great car going to a true Sunbeam enthusiast. Keep us posted on the project please.
     
  7. Limey

    Limey Diamond Level Sponsor

    Born again!

    Hi all.

    This week the Cantilever HA was delivered to the body shop. They only specialize in top end or rare classics. Once they have finished the Bugatti and the XK120 they will start on mine :). I fear the final bill will surpass £10,000 for the body but it will be perfect. They lead fill and have an excellent and ancient panel beater that makes entire coachbuilt bodies so my few dents and dinks will be done in the period way.

    All the drive gear (axles prop O/D, engine, engine bay and engine ancillaries are all done and ready to fit. that leaves the interior, chrome and wiring. I might get this finished by next winter.

    I'll post pics of the Harrington stuff as we go along.

    I figure the rear interior will be the challenge. The rear squabs, trim panels and folding seat need to be verified as correct.

    This car seems to have had the crossbar behind the seat removed. The trim is continuous from the doors all the way back. But would Harrington have removed this essential stiffening part of the car?

    It is true that the cantilever boot only allows access to the spare tire so maybe they had to remove this crossbar and make the back seat fold down flat as it does to make the interior usable?

    The only other Cantilever HA is owned by a hard to contact chap in the UK who's name escapes me. He has quite a collection of Alpines I am told. Does anybody know him or can guide me to him?

    Many thanks all!

    Oliver
     
  8. napa 1

    napa 1 Platinum Level Sponsor

    Sounds great Oliver. Very happy to hear about your progress. Please share some pics if you get the chance. What is the color choice int/ext for this one? What type of arm rests does this car have? The full length with the knee bolsters?
     
  9. Limey

    Limey Diamond Level Sponsor

    Hi Napa,

    The doors are as per ordinary SII, no arm rests. The central cubby box has a lid at the back as per Harringtons I think and it has the little light behind the seats as per HA's

    Oliver
     
  10. napa 1

    napa 1 Platinum Level Sponsor

    The other guys can chime in and correct me if I'm wrong, but your car originally had either the full arm rests with knee bolsters, as in this photo, or some variation of Knee bolsters and separate arm rest, or just arm rest. I'm collecting as many photos and as much information as I can on these arm rests because that is my next project on the Le Mans.

    John.
     

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  11. Harrington Jan

    Harrington Jan Bronze Level Sponsor

    Olivers car is a Harrington Alpine and they had no armrests at all originally. Ian had it in his HA but that's another thing. Armrests came first on Harrington Le Mans.
     
  12. atallamcs

    atallamcs Donation Time

    Armrest

    Hi Jan,
    Are you refering to the armrest between the two seats or something on each door?
    Bill
     
  13. napa 1

    napa 1 Platinum Level Sponsor

    The door arm rests Bill.

    Thanks for the correction on that Jan. I didn't realize that. I thought all Harrington's had the variations on the arm rests. I guess that was just another added "luxury" for the Le Mans. :)
     
  14. atallamcs

    atallamcs Donation Time

    armrests

    Thanks John. I do not have armrests on my Harrington Alpine.
    Bill
     
  15. napa 1

    napa 1 Platinum Level Sponsor

    I think the Le Mans you have, has the two part arm rest and knee bolster if I'm not mistaken...??
     
  16. atallamcs

    atallamcs Donation Time

    armrests

    It may have. I have yet to go over in any detail the inventory other than to know it is 100% complete. Looks like that project might have a new home later this month. It seems several are interested in this late HLM project. We shall see who writes the check, otherwise, I will begin next summer.
    Bill
     
  17. Harrington Jan

    Harrington Jan Bronze Level Sponsor

    I looked at my many Le Mans pics and I couldn't see where or when in the production it changed from one to another. There's a mix of armrests during the whole production. One can find long armrests in very early cars but also in very late ones. I know that there are some cars with home made armrests. So it's up to you to put which armrest you fancy most. I prefer no armrests at all because I'm a big boy.
     
  18. napa 1

    napa 1 Platinum Level Sponsor

    I was wondering about that too. The cabin is already so tight ..do the armrests further intrude on the limited space? I'm planning on doing the full length arm rests with the knee bolsters.
     
  19. 65beam

    65beam Bronze Level Sponsor

    lemans

    both of my cars had the small arm rest. they were a piece of wood with padding and vinyl covering. i left them out of the red car because they cause a problem for me also. i have never seen a car with the full arm rest.
     
  20. 65beam

    65beam Bronze Level Sponsor

    lemans

    if you look at the photos of my car, you'll notice that i also moved the chrome door pulls to the top of the door panel. makes it a lot easier to grab and to close the door.
     

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