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Limey

Donation Time
Hi,

On reading this it looked like a blog so apologies for that. It's probably caused by isolation syndrome. No one I know outside this forum gives monkey's, not even friends, not even other Alpine enthusiasts. So I'll just plod on 'till it's done.

On the off chance that some one might be temporarily interested..

It has been a long while since my last Harrington post. The reason was glacially slow scheduling by my chosen coachworkers and painters. To be fair, to allow me to earn the necessary cash I let it ride.

The good news is that the metal work was completed in 3 months by Bugatti/ Bentley specialist Chesterton Coachworks, a small 4 man 'old style' concern, no one under 50 yrs and he's the tea boy. One worked at Rootes in the prototype dept and another on the Alpine production line. Their memories are grim. Apparently to get the doors to fit they used a length of 4'' x 2'' and got 'Fat Bob' to apply his strength and weight. Plenty of strikes and tea breaks.

Their repairs involved removing the front and rear panels to facilitate re profiling on the English wheel and refitment. Front and rear valances replaced (no rust just dented to death) windscreen scuttle removed, hand made and fitted. Grill top removed , straightened and refitted, jacking points re aligned, Boot floor re-levelled, re leading all seams (no filler anywhere!! Just old school). Many misc. hand fabricated repairs inc battery box, floor pans to exact original pattern (pin hole rust). Alignment and repair of roof. 340 hours worked. Total bill £17,000.

Now it is at Limn Historics for the paint (another Bugatti specialists, 4 x 1920's and 1930's GP race cars and a Type 52(?) this year so far).

4 weeks in and she is looking good and soon they will be ready to a pre fit of all panels doors, roof, grill etc prior to colour coat.

Pay Attention! A staggering 300 hours work to prep and paint a body that has already been sorted by the coach workers for 340 hours!. Estimate £10,000 - £ £12,000. That is a lot for a 'paint job' and even now I have to swallow hard. Not bad for a pretty rust free body. God knows what a rusty car costs to make good...

However before I committed he showed me the quality of the work he and his crew achieve . In his shop he is currently painting a £450,000 Bugatti, another coming from Germany, a £150,000 Porsche and various Ferraris and E types. It is truly Pebble Beach quality work. Absolutely no imperfections. Untouchable.

So there it is, £27,000 spent on the body. I have given you these figures not as a boast, far from it, being reduced to an overdraft by a hobby is no sign of intellect and not something deserving applause. Only this prompts me to state crass figures, that if I had known then what I know now....But once you have invested perhaps 2000++ hours of your own time over 7 years you are too far in to to do a budget job. Might as well be 'hanged for a sheep as well as a lamb' as the old saying goes.

I hope I am not alone.

Photos coming soon although on screen they will look like any other resto.

All the best

Oliver
 

moonstone SIV

Donation Time
Hey Olly,

Blog...?? Of course it is, that's the whole reason for having a forum so we can share the highs and lows of your Sunbeam journey...

Sounds like it's been quite a ride so far given the figures you've quoted! Never mind the doubters and nay sayers...assuming the wife and kids are still talking to you, it's only money and apparently you can't take it with you :eek:

You have my utmost admiration for the amount of time, effort and GBP you have spent on the project so far and I'm only basing that on the few pics you have posted for us to see of the completed sub assemblies. If everyone took this resto thing as seriously as you my man, the world would be full of 100 point, Pebble Beach quality Sunbeams...

Loved the bit about Fat Bob, I reckon there must have been guys like him on every assembly line years ago, just waiting to "tweak" the factory panels that needed some extra persuasion. He must have been away the day my SIV was thrown together, the door gaps are awful.

So don't despair "me old mucka", I for one am waiting with much anticipation for the next pictorial installment of your Harrington re birth. Just don't keep us all waiting too long...;)

Cheers, Lance.
 

GlennB

Silver Level Sponsor
Harrington progress

Oliver,

I think we will need another gathering to celebrate when you get in on the road. Let's us know where and when.

GlennB
 

napa 1

Donation Time
Hi Oliver,
Keep the blogs coming. As I struggle along with my restoration, it encourages me to read about others. You are going first class all the way, which this special car is deserving of. Please post some pictures of your progress and I will do the same.
I'm working away on the front end, but keep running in to silly roadblocks. ie, ordered a set of stainless flexible brake lines for a series II, and I don't know what they sent me, but they don't fit, in several ways, not least of which is the length, so back they go. - Ordered sets of tie rod ends from VB, but they just seem so cheaply made, that I'm going to send them back and order a better set from elsewhere. (should know better).

Engine and Trans are going back in next weekend...so I'm finally getting somewhere.

anyway, keep up the good work Oliver.
 

Limey

Donation Time
Maniacs united

Hi all and thanks for the boost!

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The body is sitting on a custom made dolly i had made. It is at its lowest setting in the pics and can go 2 feet higher. Came in very handy for stripping down and the painters like it. They even wrapped it up to keep the overspray off, silly sods.

The advantages of taking your time over a project are:-

1) You can earn as you go
2) You have time to eBay for those NOS bits rather than crappy remanf units
3) You have time to restrip / rebuild something that you didn't do perfectly the first time
4) You get to hear advice from good people who have done it all before.
5) You get to buy books, especially the parts manual, Lucas catalogue and workshop manual and commit them to memory as bedtime reading.
6) You can pretend to the other half that the unwrapping of your NOS carbs is not important and that you would much rather go grocery shopping with her instead.

7) You get to pace your enjoyment and savour those lovely moments when another part is completed to perfection, wrapped in tissue paper to await the day of re-installation.

And like I told the padre, a proper classic car resto is like making love to a beautiful whore - when it costs that much, you take your own sweet time, do stuff the missus won't let you and you damn well make sure you get your bloody moneys worth.;)

Best regards as always,

Oliver
 
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jdoclogan

Platinum Level Sponsor
Wow! I'm excessively happy my Harrington Le Mans was a solid, straight and complete original. I agree Oliver, the adventure is sweet and the oft moments of elation provide the impetus to move forward. I raise a cold one for you and John. Keep the pain (money spent, busted knuckles, and anxious times) at bay and give those Harringtons a new day!
 

moonstone SIV

Donation Time
Oliver,

There you go. Post a few pics, a bit of banter and we're off!

Not sure of the merit of a Lucas catalog as a night cap or the hokey pokey with a lady of the evening bit but hey, whatever submerges your submarine...!

This is the car with the cantilevered boot lid, yes? If it was a UK delivered car how do you reckon it survived the tin worm so well? Judging by the photos it's almost ready for primer, have you decided to retain the original paint and trim colours or...?

Lance.
 

albeam

Donation Time
Hey Oliver

Keep this story going. Money is not the issue with a project
like this . Something like the journey is better then the
destination. Would love to see the progress.

Albeam
Series iv alpine
 

Limey

Donation Time
I have yet to decide the colour. I was at the club national yesterday and had a good look at colours there. The original colour was white which I dont like. I could be going towards Seacrest Green as it is a very different colour. Carnival Red works but is pretty common.

Im finding the choice very hard and am prevaricating.

Oliver
 

GlennB

Silver Level Sponsor
Sea Crest Green?

Lee's HLM has a very bright shade to it. The color of 3000RW is much more gentle. GB
 
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