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Gasser

Discussion in 'Ebay / Craigslist / Other Discoveries' started by Warren, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

  2. DanR

    DanR Diamond Level Sponsor

    From the pic it looks like it has a 4wd front axle /hub.
     
  3. Aladin Sane

    Aladin Sane Gold Level Sponsor

    The description does include Jeep axles.
     
  4. volvoguys

    volvoguys Diamond Level Sponsor

    When this started as a eBay auction last Sunday the seller was trying to pass the car off as a Tiger. Read the heading and the car's description in this now-ended link:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/283678350601?ul_noapp=true

    I attempted to get the VIN off the tag that's clearly shown on the cowl but s/he refused it, instead referring to the nonexistent 39106012 ID that's shown on the title. After a half dozen emails the seller pulled the auction, relisted it at $11K with a few more pics but continued to call it a Tiger. After some more contact the description was changed and the starting price lowered to (still overpriced) $7 Grand. Here's what the auction looks like right now:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUNBEAM-Gasser-Race-Car-located-in-FL-sbc-auto-dana-rear-axle/283679507626

    The seller still refuses to provide the VIN on the cowl tag! Based on the communication I had with the seller, I'm convinced this clown was knowingly misrepresenting the car in hopes some unsuspecting bidder would buy an obvious V8 Series V Alpine believing it to be a Tig.

    Mark ..... volvoguys
     
  5. DanR

    DanR Diamond Level Sponsor

    I was making comment based upon the picture then provided. Now there is a new picture that clearly shows a straight non-Alpine front axle.
     
  6. Alpine Addict

    Alpine Addict Platinum Donor Diamond Level Sponsor

    Looking at the car body I would say it is a late series 4 or series 5 (Square door and later style panels for hood).

    The tile has VIN 3910612 and states Tiger which is clearly incorrect.

    The correct VIN could possible have started B395 for a series 5 and been inputted in correctly into the system at some time in the past?
     
  7. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    I still get guys that ask is it a Tiger on both my cars. I have 2 that have no 67 in front of the year as to year first sold. One time a clerk at the DMV on correction as she added the missing B back said "no charge it was our mistake." Seen at least 8 cars titled wrong in California

    Just a note...

    CHIPS at least with the 3 or 4 I have talked to one a trainer in the VIN check area say LRXFE is a designation and not part of the VIN, which is correct. The cops are trained to look out for a Sunbeam and look at the last few letters or numbers in the VIN rather than the whole thing. So if one is stolen and they see you XFE or Alpine last 3 you may go off on the hook till proven different.
     
  8. 65beam

    65beam Bronze Level Sponsor

    Warren,
    Do the state troopers check the VIN on a regular basis due to required yearly inspections or do they spot check cars? I know of one owner here in Ohio that had a hard time getting an Ohio title made for a car bought in California due to additions on the title that could not be found on the car. I know of one car that had a plastic tag with additional numbers and letters that looked like it came out of a hand label maker and those numbers were on the title. That raised questions. Were the additions a common California practice over the years?
     
  9. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    Bob, dealers out here simply put the year first sold in front of the VIN. Other vehicles like motorcycles got the same treatment , I had a 65 Honda with a 69 year put on as year first sold. IDK if you are referring to the red or black tag that was under the JAL tag that said SUN65. There is a lot of bad information out there and an example would be Russo and Steele demanding the addition of the LRXFE on title thinking it was part of the VIN and not the designation. We have no yearly inspections for road fitness only smog for 76 forward. A cop may inspect the car on any traffic stop with dreamed up P.C. Should there be a stolen Alpine or Tiger in theory the car could be impounded should the cop be looking at make model and the last XFE most times this was also done by insurance co. as listing the last three digits of VIN make and model. I have not been pulled over but once got a PA blast and a no no wag of the finger after a chirping corner cutting turn. I have seen more than the 8 I mentioned earlier and know several cars with issues related to tags including my first Tiger now languishing under a tarp in LA home to critters at last report :(
    Maybe this seller just doesn't know WTH he has and is starting on a fishing expedition.
     
  10. SoCal'beaming

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  11. Aladin Sane

    Aladin Sane Gold Level Sponsor

  12. jumpinjan

    jumpinjan Gold Level Sponsor

    He's selling some Whizzer bikes I would like to have.
    Jan
     
  13. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    Having collected Schwinn's I'd stay off of eBay. Look at Thecabe.com
    The Whizzer's he's selling are a mash up ...
     
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  14. Jimjordan2

    Jimjordan2 Gold Level Sponsor

    Now, wait a minute, I gotta say; if you turned up at Cars and Coffee with this, I guaranteeee that you would be surrounded with guys looking and asking questions. Now, would I??? Uhh, NO. But I think it's kind of cool in it's own "Funny-car" way.
    Would not want to try and drive it I think.
    By the way, I think all those guys surrounding you at Cars and Coffee would probably be walking away shaking their heads. o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
     
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  15. Jimjordan2

    Jimjordan2 Gold Level Sponsor

    And the 54 tail lights actually are not too bad.
     
  16. Gary T

    Gary T Gold Level Sponsor

    I do not want to steal this thread, but a friend of mine has a Sunbeam that is more than a gasser. (Not for sale)
     

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  17. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    despite it says " Make offer " ?
     
  18. Gary T

    Gary T Gold Level Sponsor

    Sorry for the confusion. That "Make Offer" was when he bought the car many years ago. NOT FOR SALE
     
  19. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Ok, that sounds definite. Certainly not street legal. Where does he run that machine ? Drag strips ?
     
  20. 65beam

    65beam Bronze Level Sponsor

    Way back in 1969 a group of us decided to build an off road track on a farm owned by one of the groups dad. We used it to race our rail buggies. One Sunday a guy showed up with what turned out to be a series 1 Alpine that he was using for off road. The car was beat to pieces and I later ended up with the car. I seem to remember that I gave $25.00 for it. I still have pieces of the body.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2020 at 4:51 PM

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