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Front Shocks

Discussion in 'Sunbeam Tiger' started by Chuck Ingram, Oct 15, 2014.

  1. Chuck Ingram

    Chuck Ingram Donation Time

    What shocks are people using for front shocks on the Tigers
     
  2. PROCRAFT

    PROCRAFT Platinum Level Sponsor

    Shocks

    Chuck: We used Konis on the first Tiger, were now using QA1's if your clever
    (which you are}you'll talk to them and you will probably find what you need
    they are also Carrera by the way.

    Joel
     
  3. jimfai

    jimfai Donation Time

    what would the qa1 part number be? i replaced the spax i had last year with monroes but would like an upgrade thanks
     
  4. PROCRAFT

    PROCRAFT Platinum Level Sponsor

    shocks

    We're using QA1's coil overs what I would do is talk to their tech people
    (pretty informative) and source a front/rear shock by the travel and the body
    I did this for an Alpine guy way back and seems as if a different bushing was needed for the fronts to get the spacing correct on the bottom, you can use
    the coil overs with the stock stuff they have a pin top deal that replaces the
    normal top mount all this depends on what you want to do, we did this on our V8 Alpine opens up lots of spring options.
     
  5. Chuck Ingram

    Chuck Ingram Donation Time

    Thanks Joel
    Checked them out.A little pricey for me right now.
     
  6. jimfai

    jimfai Donation Time

    a coilover style? so are you removing the springs than? are they fully adjustable height coilovers?
     
  7. PROCRAFT

    PROCRAFT Platinum Level Sponsor

    Shocks

    Chuck, your right about being pricey, but Koni's or something similar are in the same category, jimfai yes to that question, we did a few tweaks to make this work for us but the end result was worth the effort.
     
  8. SIVAllan

    SIVAllan Donation Time

    Konis. Not too happy with them but haven't experimented with different settings yet.
     
  9. George Coleman

    George Coleman Gold Level Sponsor

    Monroe or some KYBs are good shocks, and don't cost an arm and leg. :D
     
  10. BlackDog

    BlackDog Silver Level Sponsor

    I used QA1 coil overs for a Mustang II ... MS3375

    I built a new stronger lower mount ( 3/16" ) with the cross bolt hole 1/2" lower than stock

    The top of the spring fits right in the donut as they are the same diameter as a Sunbeam.
    I've been real happy with the setup and I also get adjustable ride height as a bonus!


    Jim
    B382000446
     

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  11. alpine_64

    alpine_64 Donation Time

    I have spax adjustable on both the alpine and tiger, they are decent shocks for the money. While they are not rebuildable like the koni's the price of a koni rebuild is about the same as another pair of the spax.
     
  12. Hodee

    Hodee Gold Level Sponsor

    At 10 o'clock from the rubber bump stop, what is that hex nut attached to? Thanks for all the help.
     
  13. Barry

    Barry Platinum Level Sponsor


    Pretty sure that hex-nut is part of the fastener that retains the "clamp" for the outer / back end of the anti-roll bar.
     
  14. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Try to find Konis and get them rebuilt. They are worth every penny ;)
     
  15. Hodee

    Hodee Gold Level Sponsor

    I'm going to throw this out there to all the suspension gurus. I know the early Camaro shocks are a good fit to the Ser V Alpine, especially if stock right height is ok. So... has anyone ever mounted a shock with a t-bar lower mount to the "top side" of the lower A-arm by pressing out the studs and replacing with grade 8 bolts. I know the lower A arm has a " circular raised lip" for added strength, but that 1/4 inch space could be taken up with washers or a spacer.
    Why do I ask this? Because going with a coil over setup puts much more strain on the lower mount due to the spring and shock in a combined single point. Mounting it above the A-arm may share the load a bit better with very little change in geometry. Thoughts? Please don't slam the inquisitive process. thx.
     
  16. BlackDog

    BlackDog Silver Level Sponsor

    I think mounting it on top would greatly limit the length of spring that you could use on a coil over setup. I believe the a arm itself is VERY strong if you look closely at the way it's stamped. I used grade 8 3/8" bolts as in the pics and I can't believe they could ever pull through... a testament to that is I've had my setup installed for about 9 years/ 10k miles and have autocrossed a few times with way more hp/tire etc. than stock . Looking at the pic of the stock shock mount, I think it could be reinforced quite easily actually by adding weld and maybe heavy washers on the mounting hole sides. Stock material looks to be about 1/8" and the ones I made were done out of 3/16" IMG_0160.jpg DSCF0037.JPG IMG_1373.JPG
     
  17. BlackDog

    BlackDog Silver Level Sponsor

    BTW, I think the factory used studs for the shock mount so they wouldn't turn when removing the bracket as in the stock setup it's pretty much impossible to get at the top with the spring there!! I didn't know how strong those stock studs would be ( grade 5 ?? ) and changing them out gave me a chance to have a wider bearing surface where it takes the weight on the a arm
     

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