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Door rubber gasket - which direction to install?

Discussion in 'Factory Original Alpines & Tigers' started by jumpinjan, Jan 7, 2021.

  1. jumpinjan

    jumpinjan Bronze Level Sponsor

    These are new rubber, door-edge weatherstrip gaskets from Rick (p/n DP54). These are the molded sponge rubber strips with a bonded, hard rubber "Tee" strip and that Tee slides in the metal channel that goes around the door jam.
    These seals can only be installed in one direction, and when installed do not completely seal the body/door gap. Also, hard to even close the door. To me it looks like the wrong seal, and I have been told they are not like the factory ones.
    My question is what have you experienced?
    Jan
     
  2. junkman

    junkman Gold Level Sponsor

    I have not had any issues with SS door seals. That being said they certainly can be a bugger to install, last set we did my guy broke out the glass cleaner to help them along and there was still quite a bit of swearing. As far as actually sealing, how good are any of them? Any Sunbeam I ever drove in a heavy rain leaked like hell. With all new rubber!
     
  3. jumpinjan

    jumpinjan Bronze Level Sponsor

    I never had any leaks in my Series I with a hardtop. Although, all the seals were original seals. The soft top is a different story, it leaked.
    Jan
     
  4. junkman

    junkman Gold Level Sponsor

    I've never driven a Sunbeam with a hardtop. That's about to change with my up coming MK1, #364 black dash.Color#1 w/a Martha red interior.
    Jeff
     
  5. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Despite I normally like original style setup I never install the door weatherstrips anymore. The channels are terrible rust traps and the seals do nothing except making door shutting difficult...
     
  6. moonstone SIV

    moonstone SIV Donation Time

    Jan,

    The seals can be installed in either the "wrong" or "right" way, it's dependent on the lip that seals against the door aperture. Can you shoot a pic of the molding cross section?
     
  7. alpine_64

    alpine_64 Donation Time

    Bernd if they are the correct seals they stop a lot of draft and wind noise. They shouldn't make it hard to close the door, they should be soft enough to compress to seal.
     
  8. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Michael, I wonder whether that makes a real difference in an open top car, unless you drive with the Hardtop on. What still remains an issue though is the rust trapping under that channel. Have attached a picture of a sample S2 original door which came from an otherwise almost rust free body and that's how they all look like underneath that dreaded steel channel :confused:. Just not going that path anymore, but up to personal preferences... IMG_20210110_122548.jpg
     
  9. alpine_64

    alpine_64 Donation Time

    Hi Bernd,

    Yes i do drive it with the hardtop in winter.... When i was younger i drove it roof down all the time even in winter.. That said when i first got it i had no hardtop... Or soft top :p
     
  10. bernd_st

    bernd_st Bronze Level Sponsor

    Occasionally also drive with Hardtop on as can be seen from my Avatar. Find the draft/engine fumes coming in from the firewall way more annoying. So a bit of fresh air in the cabin is normally welcome. Even letting the rear side later Hardtop windows open on longer trips...
     
  11. Warren

    Warren Bronze Level Sponsor

    I had not driven one either except for an extremely well prepared car. What that means is one that didn't have any rattles have been gone over with a fine tooth comb or similar device to tighten everything up so there were no rattles and modified rubber for
    the tin can effect. I didn't do my own headliner, as I have a old friend who used to do installs professionally. He used a MBZ soft top insulation. Maybe it works too good now because you hear every noise that the car makes. I just did spend some time putting some dynamat like product on the back of the center hood cover as the sound intruding from the fuel pump area as well as the boot is somewhat maddening.
    My only fix now is to turn up the boombox which I kind of do anyway.

    Before my concern with the top down was the amount of extra wind noise from the windshield surround in that 90° stainless steel stupid vertical gutter.

    I would PS that tight rubber will also trap a lot of road salt salt spray if driven by the beach on the big surf day etc. Plus there's always that little bit of debris dirt and whatever that lives and turns to mud and remains wet.
    Once you save a few cars from living in outdoor leaf shedders you see the debris contribution.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2021

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