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Alpine odds and ends

Discussion in 'Alpine Cars and Parts For Sale' started by Warren, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    Battery hold down? Distributor
    and that free rear end out of a automatic trans car. Not sure on fitment.
     

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  2. Scott Rodrigues

    Scott Rodrigues Donation Time

    How much for the distributor? What motor did it come off or does that matter?
     
  3. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    I have no idea, other than it came with an Alpine. So did the battery hold down but it was on the car. I don't get it seems you would only need the battery hold down if upside down ;)
     
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  4. hartmandm

    hartmandm Moderator Platinum Level Sponsor

    Warren,

    Do you see a part number on the distributor?

    upload_2019-10-8_17-52-32.png

    Mike
     
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  5. Scott Rodrigues

    Scott Rodrigues Donation Time

    I didn't even see it! Good eyes, bro!
     
  6. hartmandm

    hartmandm Moderator Platinum Level Sponsor

    That is a picture of my series V distributor! I wanted to show Warren where to look for a part #. It can be looked up in the Parts Manual to see what series it was used. Sorry for the confusion.

    Mike
     
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  7. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    I'll dig out the geezer spectacles and have a look.
     
  8. Scott Rodrigues

    Scott Rodrigues Donation Time

    It's all good, you taught me something new today, thank you for that! :)
     
  9. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    558 V 190
    405 11B
    DU 9 arrow for rotation.

    Per the battery hold down it actually came off the car.
     
  10. hartmandm

    hartmandm Moderator Platinum Level Sponsor

    Scott,

    Based on Warren's info, I assume the Lucas distributor part # is 40511B. That specific distributor part # is not listed in the Alpine Parts Manual. The distributors are listed on pages W16 & W17: http://sunbeamalpine.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Alpine-parts-manual-SI-SV-searchable.pdf

    Here are some examples from the Parts Manual:
    upload_2019-10-9_18-3-10.png

    So assuming the distributor came from some other application, what would it be? An Internet search yielded a hit on this Lucas distributor document:
    https://usermanual.wiki/Document/lucasdistributorspecs.1726602031.pdf

    I looked up the 40766A part # used on early series Alpines. It is listed as Lucas model DM2P4. It shows the distributor was used with Sunbeam Alpines MK2. It even shows the amount of advance at various RPMs.

    I looked up my series V part #41077A. There is no 41077A entry, but there is 41077E. It is a Lucas model 25D4 and lists 1965-1967 Sunbeam Alpines & Rapiers.

    There is an entry for 40511B. It is Lucas model DM2P4 (like early series Alpine distributors). But no applications are listed, nor any timing advance info.

    The Lucas part numbers appear to increase over time within the document. I would guess the 40511B distributor is around the 1955 to 1957 time frame.

    I have no idea if the distributor will work with your rebuilt 1725 motor (i.e. physically fits). I recommend you rebuild any original 50+ year old distributor. You want to have an advance curve that is setup for today's gasoline. Any original old distributor you buy you could try out for a while just to get your engine going again. But at some point I think you will want to rebuild the distributor (or go electronic?) for better performance.

    Mike
     
  11. Warren

    Warren Silver Level Sponsor

    Mike thanks for doing my homework. Possibly it's a generic dealer refit.
    I'd hate to toss it.
    No feed back on that battery hold down?
    According to his talks at a club event a fellow members gave up racing Tigers cuz he rolled two and went to Alpine's.
    The comment was not serious as with that battery box seems hard for a battery to go anywhere.

    There was some teeny brake shoes I tossed with the extras .
    I'll drop it off at my Austin Healy pals porch in a basket ...
     

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