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3.0 Sho

Ed Zeppelin

Ed Zeppelin

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Any thoughts on swapping in a 3.0 SHO from a Ford Taurus? I can get the whole 1998 Taurus for $500, but if the engine won't be an easy swap, I'll just forget about it.
 
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Bill Blue

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Then its best to forget about it. Would probably be about as easy to drop in a hemi. Maybe easier, there are probably 5 speeds that will bolt up to the hemi.

Bill
 
Ed Zeppelin

Ed Zeppelin

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OK, thanks Bill. I've got a good line on a 66 Alpine with a siezed motor, but I'll keep looking for a good 2.8.
 
sunbby

sunbby

Past SAOCA President
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Bill Blue said:
Then its best to forget about it. Would probably be about as easy to drop in a hemi. Maybe easier, there are probably 5 speeds that will bolt up to the hemi.
Bill
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Bill is most likely correct, but a quick search through Wikipedia shows that it is a 60 degree V6 and claims to be compatible with a T5 transmission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_SHO_V6_engine#3.0

Whom would you trust, guys like Bill and Jose who have been there, done that; or guys like me that daydream, search the internet and look at pictures?
 
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V6 JOSE

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The Sho (Yamaha) V6 is a 60 degree engine alright, but those heads have dual overhead cams, which make the engine about a foot too wide to fit the narrow Alpine engine bay. It would be lots easier to install a SB Ford, like the Tiger has, than try to install this great, but too wide engine.

With enough time and money, anything can be stuffed into the Alpine, but easy, it won´t be.

Jose
 
Alpine 1789

Alpine 1789

SAOCA President
Diamond Level Sponsor
V6 JOSE said:
The Sho (Yamaha) V6 is a 90 degree engine alright, but those heads have dual overhead cams, which make the engine about a foot too wide to fit the narrow Alpine engine bay. It would be lots easier to install a SB Ford, like the Tiger has, than try to install this great, but too wide engine.
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Aw, come on guys. All he would have to do is buy two cars, cut one down the middle and weld in the middle section from the other. It's been done before. :D
 
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Bill Blue

Platinum Level Sponsor
sunbby said:
Bill is most likely correct, but a quick search through Wikipedia shows that it is a 60 degree V6 and claims to be compatible with a T5 transmission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_SHO_V6_engine#3.0

Whom would you trust, guys like Bill and Jose who have been there, done that; or guys like me that daydream, search the internet and look at pictures?
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Todd, I cannot say I have been there and done that, but I have had considerable exposure to the issue.

This Wikipedia site shows the SHO to have the same pattern as the Vulcan V6, as well as the HSC 2.3 and 2.5. The site is wrong when they say the Vulcan V6 FWD and RWD patterns are the same. It takes only a glance at a Ranger 3.0 Vulcan to confirm that it is different than the Tempo/Taurus Vulcan 3.0. The SHO and Vulcan FWD patterns are the same, a guy stuffed a SHO into a Tempo V6, using the Tempo transmission. Well, at least until he destroyed the Tempo tranny. The Vulcan FWD is not the same as the Lima 2.3 pattern, once again easy to confirm with a glance and I've been much more intimate with them than a glance. I mention this because it is common to see the HSC 2.3 and 2.5 and think they are referring to the Lima 2.3 and 2.5. They are two different families and have nothing in common, other than displacement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_bellhousing_patterns

I have read on several occasions the Escort and Tempo patterns are the same and are the old Pinto 2.0 pattern. I have no reason to doubt that. If true, the only 5 speed that would bolt up without incident to the SHO would be the Ford Type 9.

But none of this matters, the SHO is way to wide for a Sunbeam.

It is amazing how convoluted and confusing the world of Ford bell housing patterns really is. A guy has to wonder why.

Bill
 
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V6 JOSE

Donation Time
Hi Ed,

If the engine is from a 1973-1975 Ranger/Bronco II, it is the one. That price is real good too.


Jose
 
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V6 JOSE

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Hi Mike,

Again, I´m not thinking well. Yes, I meant 1983-1985. Rangers didn´t come with the V6 till 1983.

Jose
 
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Doobs

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actually I have swapped a few 3L SHO motors over the last few years....it has the same bolt pattern as the ranger 3L thus it can be converted to RWD applications using a ranger 3L 2 wd trans.......
 
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